Australia - you're standing in it

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Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

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D-Rex Friday, 27 Nov 2020 at 7:18pm

Nothing shouts desperation more than middle-aged white men 'defending' indigenous Australians (Peter Garrett also please take note).

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Snuffy Smith Saturday, 28 Nov 2020 at 7:55am

Might have to use a different bait D-Tox that one's a bit on the nose.

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Sheepdog Saturday, 28 Nov 2020 at 11:29am

D Rex writes "Nothing shouts desperation more than middle-aged white men 'defending' indigenous Australians (Peter Garrett also please take note)."
Fascinating..... Instead of outright attacking Aboriginies , and therefore be called a racist, attack those who defend aborigines. Perhaps the next logical step , D rex", is to label these desperate white men "uncle Murrays" maybe?
You really are a sad f*cker. lmfao

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Blowin Saturday, 28 Nov 2020 at 12:26pm

International students flying into Darwin from today yet I can’t leave the country and Australian citizens can’t return home.....fck you Scomo you tubby fascist cnt.

How much evidence do you need that Australia is no longer a country but is now just an economic zone to be raped by Scummo and his mates ?

MSM is a silent about it cause they are all on board the Big Australia economic zone train,,,,,,toot toot !

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 28 Nov 2020 at 3:26pm

The spice must flow.

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Blowin Saturday, 28 Nov 2020 at 5:52pm

I just ordered the Dune trilogy from the library. I don’t know much about it beyond that it’s about some kind of intergalactic drug mining- does that sound right ?

Anyway I’m looking forward to reading them . Apparently a reboot of the movie is on its way so it’ll be everywhere and so it’ll be good to get the whole “ the books are better “ conversation behind me.

You read them ?

Nice reference though mate.

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Spuddups Saturday, 28 Nov 2020 at 6:05pm

I've only read the first one, which is a masterpiece. His short stories are worth reading as well.

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Blowin Saturday, 28 Nov 2020 at 7:18pm

Masterpiece ! Sounds better by the minute.

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Snuffy Smith Saturday, 28 Nov 2020 at 7:50pm

Google "Big Waz vs Christbait"

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Sickaz Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 1:18am

Yep I need to read The Dune Series it sounds cool. Definitely part of literary pop culture.

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factotum Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 5:31am

Speaking of cod science fiction...

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/2020/11/28/scott-morrison-daggy...

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the people.

Battery chooks voting for KFC.

"I don't care...I love it!"

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Westofthelake Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 10:24am

Never happen here? Let's hope it does.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 10:57am

Good call facto...+ yet another comedy gold Westofthelake Meme

tbb also thought the Govt's clown mask routine was a Covid clown act

Daggy dads Down Under disease demeans us mental illness sufferers.
https://1v1d1e1lmiki1lgcvx32p49h8fe-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/u...

Health Ministers spazz attack demeans us myositis sufferers.
https://www.facebook.com/news.com.au/videos/health-minister-greg-hunt-pe...

Did they steal this dumb & dumber routine from other World leaders...
Level 7 (True! That's what they fans call it & love it!)


It is true that they win instant public likes & even parody games emerge.
Joh for PM bumper Sticker effect...(He can't be serious!)

Anna now hires Scomo to sponsor & stage manage Qld Tourism Promos.
Girl's sister said Scomo's Tear down Anna's Wall Promo exploited her dad's death.
Bride of Scomo models ICU gown / The ICU Face Shield / Mask / Gloves + Spex.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/c3a9a950d2a9c8fbbd8e8f5d6a8e734b
Now here's the family at the same funeral...minus Scotty's marketing Props!
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrgCoSiMxBsP9-Q3ew...

Scomo knows exactly how to make us cry with daggy dad Covid Props.

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Sheepdog Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 12:26pm

In France, Germany, even Indonesia and Thailand, they march in the streets against bad governance. In Australia we reward dud politicians with record oproval ratings. We truly are a nation of idiots

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/federal/it-doesn-t-matter-how-...

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Blowin Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 12:31pm

Are you saying you’re an idiot Sheepy ?

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 2:32pm

There is fuck ups and then there is fuck ups though.

Things like robbo debt are fuck ups, but they only affect a small percentage of the population.

While fuck ups like the one we have seen under Dan Andrew affect every single person in his state for months on end both mentally and financially and has even resulted in the loss of a 819 life's (Australia Covid deaths overall are 907)

If Dan Andrew can get away with that and even be praised well anything is possible, there was people on the streets protesting though.

Meanwhile Scomos high approval rating is based on Australias success with covid which makes sense.

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Blowin Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 2:58pm

Piss takes aside , I do agree Sheepy.

It’s getting out of control how little regard politicians have for the electorate these days. They just do not give a fuck what we think anymore.

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GuySmiley Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 3:32pm

Info for the thousandth time Age Care, Borders and Quarantine all Federal Government responsibilities. The health response to Federal Govt failures in any of the above State responsibility. You know that already

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adam12 Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 4:09pm

Sheepdog it was John Howard who killed ministerial responsibility in Australia. Remember Mick Young losing his portfolio for not declaring the gift of a toy bear?
The Westminster system is by far the best form of parliamentary democracy but it's weakness lies in the fact that a lot of the conventions that underpin it are implied and open to manipulation by opportunists. Ministerial responsibility is one of those. These days that is a problem that pales in comparison to the corruption and criminality that passes for governance in some Australian jurisdictions and political parties. They have their middle fingers up at the electorate and are laughing at us.

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GuySmiley Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 4:26pm

Example: Hot Mess Gladys Berejiklian telling the press $140 million in pork barrelling wasn't "illegal" and that "all parties do it".

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/26/berejiklian-admit...

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 4:41pm

@ Guy

It's not even debatable anymore we all know Dan Andrews government fucked up quarantine that was his governments responsibility, your bias pro Labor view point changes nothing, at least take ownership of the fuck up like others have.

You listen to ABC radio in the mornings yeah?...you would have heard Virginia Trioli even clear this up quickly the other day that responsibility was taken over by the states, when someone tried to say the same thing.

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Vic Local Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 5:46pm

Oh so Quarantine is no longer a Federal responsibility. The constitution must have changed recently and I must have missed the referendum. Either that happened or Indo-dreaming is talking out his arse again.

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GuySmiley Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 6:36pm

Errr fuck off Vic, must be time for some meds shirley.

Info, never picked you as a listener of ABCW radio, doesn’t alter the facts, the premiers should have collectively told Itsnevermyresponsibilty-mo to fuck off and do your day job.

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troppo dichotomy Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 6:12pm

Here in South Oz we've also had some issues with hotel quazza.......
I'm blaming that dam Dan Andrews and the B.L.M. protest!!
Sco mo ron,our fearless leader has done an awesome job.....?

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D-Rex Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 7:11pm

Head circle jerker sheepie is at it again - he wants us to take to the streets to burn cars and loot shops like they do o/s. Stick to taking the moral high ground over indigenous Australians, mate.

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factotum Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 7:13pm

D-tox! How's your prostate, gramps? Bum a bit tender?

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truebluebasher Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 2:02am

First o's arrivals went to Xmas Island /NZ /NT ( ADF escorted them )

Norwegian Jewel fuelled Scomo's first raid on an unsuspecting Swissotel Sydney.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/residents-not-told-cruise-passengers...
Elderly residents had their apartment Tower raided at 4am. by 293 Cruise pass.
Yes! Of course Brendon promised they were clean...5 covid cases went to hospital.
Reports suggest that 30% left with the virus...this is NSW so that's normal.

Intercontinental Hotel 33 Quarantine arrivals simply walked out past NSW Police.
No one has ever seen them since...again... NSW none give a fuck (No inquiry!)

Reminder that Scomo had fucked all this up well before he screwed Dan over.

Fed Govt promised every pass & Airport that ADF would greet them on arrival.
Oz airports ADF will assist with luggage as per National Quarantine!
Fed Aviation Law Transport Security Act (National Review of Hotel Quarantine.)(Page 11-12)
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020/10/national...
"Buses are assembled in preparation for travelers. Travelers are loaded onto buses, which are usually limited to approximately 50% capacity, with assistance of local police, ADF, contracted services or a combination. In most jurisdictions buses are sent to accommodation as they are filled."

Reminding that PM informed ALL media & travellers of Federal ADF operation.

27 Mar 2020 PM Media Release.
"The Commonwealth will provide support through the ABF / ADF for these arrangements across Australia, and that States & Territories would meet the costs & determine any contributions required for travellers arriving within their jurisdictions."

Ever always PM promised ADF to secure Every Australian Airport. ( #1 Rule! )
100% Scomo's Hot Hotel Scheme by law & by constant admission & PM's own diary.

To claim Vic initiated Hot Hotel is akin to Trump Speak (It's Fake News & borderline dangerous)
Show where Oz law & PM's Instruction & Logs were overturned to abort ADF Victoria mission.

Reports show that PM & ADF stuck to plan & kept their promise at most Airports..
ADF secured Oz Airport arrivals into NT / QLD / NSW (AFP Motorcade to Hotel)

However! As Mental inquiry have yet to notice that ADF boycotted Melbourne.
Reminding that this was against PM's promise for all States / international arrivals.
ADF never arrived at Melbourne Airport + Never secured Oz arrivals into Victoria...

Pause: tbb has not seen or read any news reports / photos of ADF at Melbourne Airport.
(Can't say 100% certain from Qld.) If crew can show evidence of ADF at Airport. (Day 1)
Obviously tbb will delete all relevant criticisms or their apparent aborted mission.

Scomo failed to uphold Quarantine Laws & failed to defend Oz entry into Victoria.
Scomo's failure clearly jeopardised Vic health & Quarantine from day one.
Our PM clearly lowered the bar with several major fuck ups during Week 1 of Quarantine.
Clearly the single biggest Oz Quarantine failure rate before Dan ever touched a thing!

Clearly Victoria had to tidy up Scomo's last minute cowardly retreat from Vic frontline Duty.
Mystery emergency crew that saved Vic borders at last minute, without notice deserve respect.
Don't care if the're [457] Pizza boys, they still rate 100 x more gutsy than Scomo's slack Troops.

Inquiry (Try This!)
Day one & 1st load of Arrivals > (ADF absence) (Why?)
Clearly Scomo's abandonment of border duty triggered an emergency backlog response.
Obviously Airport phoned Feds to ask for emergency back up.
Altogether! Scomo was at Hillsong Dance Off & said Fuck off! It's the weekend...
Rightly the Airport then pushed on Vic to engage a Private Firm & real fast.
Note this is on w/e + Covid Frontline Essential rates.
Who were these plucky guys that dropped everything to cover for ADF to defend Victoria?

How can a Qldurr see this, but a Dumbass inquiry ignores the obvious! Over & over.
Scomo's Failure of Oz defence duty led to fast tracking of stand in security with zero planing.
Either that or Melbourne Airport shuts down...
( This is where Scomo is meant to Apologize for dumping Vic in the shit! )
Instead the Coward dumps it all on Dan...(Dan says I don't know!) How could he?

Reminding that Scomo's Melbourne Airport ABF Covid Closure was unaccounted.
Scomo failed Vics o's Hotel supply line security twice (Where does Inquiry highlight failings?)
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/melbourne-ai...
Scomo set up Rydges Nat' Hot hotel Chain & his pet manager fucks his o's covid guest.
PM's donors spread that...well, he's not putting money in Dan's defence fighting fund.
PM's mates in Qld /NSW Rydges were guilty of leaking many Covid Guests.
PM set up "National" Rydges Hot Hotel chain > to rent out shitty no air/UV rooms...durr!

tbb is at a loss how Scomo walks free for abandoning Vic & failing border security.
PM couldn't find Vic Airport or deliver one load of Vic passengers as he promised.
Suffocating led to escapes & death, Oz wide - Chix Punched out the Guards (To get Air!)
Quarantine cases can leave dripping with covid & NZ entry card instructs how to breach borders.

Dan is on trial for being the only State Premier to secure 100% of PM's tormented escapees.
tbb doubts that inquiry even knows or cares for such obvious fact...( A Miscarriage of Justice )

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 29 Nov 2020 at 8:26pm

"You read them ?

Nice reference though mate."

Actually I haven't, would like to. I must've seen some imagery from it in the 80's; the giant sand worms etc. One massive spice operation. And I'm not talking Baby Spice. There is our own version of it, it's been going on here for a very long time:

https://australianfoodtimeline.com.au/rum-corps/

https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/stories/terra-australis-australia/1808-rum-reb...

Adam12, good post above too.

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Sickaz Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 2:53pm

Facto making gay sex insults again. Are you there GuySmiley? Here is one example of the homophobic BS I was talking about, nothing to do with proud boys, Monty Python or whatever you were on about the other day.

Just a creep preaching ethical and moral higher ground while he himself uses accusations of gay sex as an insult and in turn proves his own bigotry.

From Facto;
“How's your prostate, gramps? Bum a bit tender?”

Facto, don’t be a coward, be a ‘real man’ and answer this question; How is accusing people of partaking in gay sex, without any context, purely as an insult, not homophobic?

It’s not just a one off or a figure of speech. You have levelled these accusations against a multitude of people on here plenty of times.

Often these insults are aimed at people you falsely accuse of racism. You seem to be able to divine racism so magically, even when nothing has been said that is even close to being overtly racist. Quite the skill.

Tell me Facto, how are you any better than a racist? Obviously you are OK with using a historically/currently oppressed minority as a subject of contempt. You explicitly vilify people by accusing them of being gay. Quite the hypocrite.

Like I said when you accused me baselessly of being a Nazi, I am sure you wouldn’t have the courage to say these things to a stranger in person, and you shouldn’t. Why; because what you say is base and vile and it invokes justified rage in anyone who you aim it towards. You would get what you deserve.

Your digital anonymity allows you to behave in a way that would not be tolerated in a real public environment. Total hero.

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Vic Local Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 3:00pm

So a prostate examination is gay sex these days? Does that mean a female doctor doing a Pap smear is involved in Lesbian sex?
Facto is being a bit crude but to claim a joke about an uncomfortable medical examination is a homophobic slur really is jumping the shark.

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factotum Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 3:18pm

Hahahahahaha. Earth to Sickballz*...Earth to Sickballz...do you copy??

I guess if this was the Seppo thread, I could've used the term 'butthurt' for that old dinosaur.

Then again 'butthurt', as a term, I find extremely painful (pardon the pun).

* I guess 'sickballz' is a homophobic slur too?! Then again what do I know? I know nussink!

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Sheepdog Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 3:53pm

Australia.... The first to lampoon world leaders and countries, with our newspaper "cartoons". We laugh at muslims offended at "charlie". We paint Trump as an over sized orange. We defend drawing Sarina Williams as a gorilla. We applaud South Park for mocking Saddam and Kim Jong. We "kind of support cartoons about the uyhgurs (but not too loudly as to not offend our wet suit/ board shorts/ leg rope/ blanks suppliers.
BUT..... Another country makes a shoop of our military killing kids ( which we allegedly did), and we reel in horror, OH THE OUTRAGE!!!! OH HOW COULD THEY?!?!
Let's not use this china tweet as a facade to look away from the actions that brought us to this point I know Scotty in marketing will. But we made our own bed. We killed innocent people in Afghanistan AND for the mighty dollar turn a blind eye to the genocide occurring where we get our surf gear from,
Now carry on..

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GuySmiley Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 4:40pm

I guess context is everything Sickaz

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truebluebasher Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 5:08pm

Request ...could crew please bring up the Chinese Symbolic threat...
Gonna need the whole crew to decipher the complete Symbolic nature of threat.
Yes! It's that serious!

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/images/transform/v1/crop/frm/3BUUzmFAhr...

Reason being it has many Symbolic messages...it's very War Like.
This rates high in terms of visual media...not lightweight stuff.
More enigma code than "War of the Rose."

* Australian Flag is draping over corpses.
* The Arch is iconic ...but need crew to define which Arch + City behind?
* The Bloody Revolution Flag (Very Simple but rare & needs a Flag Master's guess!)
* The Flag is Flying with from this Triumph Arch ? (Bad or Good) a trick?
* The Red Line is Strong as a force with spoils
* Missing Green Jigsaws are shattered & depleted (Land is at Risk?)
* The Lamb is likely to be most symbolic...not going there as yet. (That's a trick!)
* Wheat could also resemble Military Ribbon as remembrance ( Citing awards )
* Soldier may have Kill notches + even a bomb
* Note Blood is already on Knife portraying Aussies as Mass Killers of Kids.
* Positioning is odd. Chinese spend a fortune then view all from Side on?
* It could evoke Mecca for some religious confrontation.
* The Soldier is on Australian Flag (Cowardly Intrudes) Kid is on Red Jigsaw?

* The White Flag with Red Vertical Stripe is Ultra Rare in Sheldon's World of Flags.
Horizontal Red Band = Revolution
Vertical Red Band = Bloody War
tbb has given it a crack....[ Bloody |///| Revolution]

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Blowin Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 5:58pm

An opinion from the excellent Macrobusiness :

Alexander Downer was never the sharpest cross-dresser in the shed, at the AFR he declares:

“China’s aggression will, in the end, prove to be entirely counterproductive. There are two reasons why.

First, other countries have indeed been warned that China will treat them with the same aggression should they in some way transgress and incur the wrath of the Communist leaders in Beijing. The message from Beijing is clear. Tremble and obey…There is one obvious way to counter this. That is to become less economically dependent on China.

…Secondly, China’s aggression towards Australia has had the effect of corralling other regional countries and particularly liberal democracies to balance China’s power. The evolution of what was once the Trilateral Security Dialogue – which I set up with the Americans and the Japanese in 2006 – into the Quad is obviously designed to balance China’s power. The fact that India has joined in is not a strategic plus for China.

And look at what the new appointees in the incoming Biden administration have had to say. Antony Blinken has spoken of binding the democracies of North America, Europe and the Indo-Pacific together in a new movement of democracies. So has Jake Sullivan, the new national security adviser. How can all of this be in China’s interest? “

It’s not but it’s the wrong question to ask. The right question is who’s interests is this in if not the Chinese people? The answer is the CCP and, in particular, Xi Jinping.

Once one accepts that the Chinese economy is in trouble as it goes ex-growth through the 2020s then bogs down permanently as disastrous demographics take their toll, then external aggression makes perfect sense. If the fulcrum of CCP power is its social contract with Chinese peoples – that they give up political freedom in exchange for prosperity – then obviously the CCP is also in jeopardy as the economy stagnates.

The answer is an age-old one for the dictator: arouse nationalism. That is achieved by creating a bunch of external enemies to blame for your domestic problems.

This is why CCP moves today are entirely logical, so long as you understand who they are designed to benefit. It’s not China nor the Chinese. To wit, at the FT:

“The EU will call on the US to seize a “once-in-a-generation” opportunity to forge a new global alliance, in a detailed pitch to bury the tensions of the Trump era and meet the “strategic challenge” posed by China.

A draft EU plan for revitalising the transatlantic partnership, seen by the Financial Times, proposes new co-operation on everything from digital regulation and tackling the Covid-19 pandemic to fighting deforestation.

The paper, prepared by the European Commission, says the EU-US partnership needs “maintenance and renewal” if the democratic world is to assert its interests against “authoritarian powers” and “closed economies [that] exploit the openness our own societies depend on”.

The 11-page set of draft policy proposals, entitled “a new EU-US agenda for global change”, includes an appeal for the EU and US to bury the hatchet on persistent sources of transatlantic tension, such as Europe’s push for greater taxation of US tech giants.

As open democratic societies and market economies, the EU and the US agree on the strategic challenge presented by China’s growing international assertiveness, even if we do not always agree on the best way to address this.

…The paper says: “As open democratic societies and market economies, the EU and the US agree on the strategic challenge presented by China’s growing international assertiveness, even if we do not always agree on the best way to address this.””

Time to limit financial flows into China. Tobin Tax Ray Dalio into oblivion.

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I focus Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 6:39pm

ID "Things like robbo debt are fuck ups, but they only affect a small percentage of the population."

Morrison setup Robo debt

Since when is 2000 unnecessary deaths OK?

"Over 2000 people died after receiving Centrelink robo-debt notice, figures reveal"

https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/2030-people-have-died-after...

PS it was actually Christian Porter, different dog.....same kennel.

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indo-dreaming Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 6:52pm

Nobody likes to see any deaths, If there was suicides because of getting debt notices that were wrong then that is really sad,

But it's completely misleading to suggest those 2000 deaths had anything to do with Robo debt, without knowing the break down of the cause of deaths and you know that.

Deaths in victoria from Covid meanwhile and every other effect like people losing business, losing homes and all kinds of negative things basically come back to one fark up.

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JQ Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 7:03pm

Nice to see you compare one small mistake, made during an unprecedented pandemic with an ongoing, deliberate, malicious and knowingly illegal policy suite targeting the most vulnerable in our society. Viciously defended, even going so far as to weaponise the weight of government and its media allies to vilify one person who dared to speak out.

I guess the in-group-out-group strategy is quite effective hey.

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Vic Local Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 7:40pm

Hey Indo,
All governments make mistakes, but how they deal with them is crucial. When it comes to robodebt, the LNP double, tripled and quadrupled down. It took years for them to finally admit they fucked up and the human damage just kept getting worse. They put their political priorities above the lives of vulnerable people. Fucking callous.
Aged care is still a fucking shambles. They've had years to fix it but nothing absolutely nothing has been done. Look at the deaths in private aged care homes compared to Victorian government owned homes. The Feds just don't give a fuck about aged care unless it starts costing them serious amounts of votes. They put their political priorities above the lives of vulnerable people.
Branch stacking in Victoria? The ALP booted out a bunch of people, the Libs sent it to an internal review and nobody went down.
There's a big reason why the Federal government is the most incompetent, cruelest, and corrupt government in history. Nobody is accountable for anything.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 7:58pm

tbb the red flag - is that not a single colour rendition of the French flag on it, and the structure in the flag is the Arc de Triomphe? What do the Germans do under the Arc de Triomphe every 70 years or so? (Great quote I read in Massie's book iirc, German general is asked if he's ever been to Paris, he replies "Only in times of war.")

just wondering - if indeed it is a French, or internationalist flag, which one was it? Many flags have the wheat representing agriculture.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 7:54pm

And a lot of the swellnet innuendo follows in the wake of Gary G

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velocityjohnno Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 8:36pm

tbb I also have been going through recent news

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/call-in-the-umpire-barley-gro...

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/pm-warns-of-economic-challeng...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-29/morrisons-vision-australia-changi...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-23/can-australia-wield-an-iron-fist-...

Re: threats, if you were to compare July 1941 to now, the West is further forward deployed and is allied to many of the independent nations in South East Asia. In the leadup to December 1941 Western powers were almost wholly underprepared (French were supposed not to fall to Germany, thus the French Navy would keep the Med and a powerful British fleet would be at Singapore - didn't happen and RN had to fight very hard to hold the Med and Malta, so no resources for Singapore; USN had only just deployed to Pearl in 1940 from the West Coast, Dutch had insufficient force) and the Japanese were battle hardened and had a very fast moving plan of battle evolved and ready to go, with a considerable, strong blue water Navy to support it. 10 aircraft carriers with most concentrated in Kido Butai for one phenomenally strong raiding force, for eg.

Today is different in that missile saturation (a2AD) may make the carrier obsolete in the same way massed air power made the battleship obsolete last time around. But none of that is yet proven; likely but not yet proven. Closest experience is the British at the Falklands using Type 42s as radar pickets up against small groups of Super Etendards with Exocets and shooting down many - but not enough of the missiles - with Sea Darts. Everything has evolved greatly since then.

China is working hard on a blue water Navy with proper amphibious capacity, but to back up their threat, they'd run into RAN/RAAF, as well as the USN, RN, Indian Navy and not least the Japanese Navy. The further your lines of supply are, the harder to hold/take things are - that goes both ways - maybe a parallel of trench warfare, just with missiles over open ocean... Lastly, Asian powers tend to strike out of the blue, eg Port Arthur 8/2/1904... 2c from a ship nerd, anyway...

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GuySmiley Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 10:05pm

A big shout out to VL .....

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Sickaz Monday, 30 Nov 2020 at 11:44pm

That is a good one Gsmiley

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 1 Dec 2020 at 1:31am

tbb now sees that the Lamb is a Peace Offering & as the child takes it...(The Wolf)
Aussies killing machine hides corpses under it's False flag and sneaks up on child.
The cowardly Aussie then asks to return their Sweet Bait or the Kid gets it!
Artist implies Aussies bait the vulnerable with peace offering then slaughter kids.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8999917/China-attacks-Australia...

Most media are editing out the Corpses under the Flag & none mention them.
Some also imply a cloth rather than the Corpse draping flag is cloaking the child.
It's vividly clear that the kid is the next corpse under the flag. Mind yer step.

All in all it seems that it's not Chinese Govt Propaganda but they do support it!

ABC : "The image was created by an Artist who often makes politically - charged statements & posted the picture on Chinese social Media Weibo..last week!"

Sept : ABC Artist knocked up very similar Cold War (China / Oz ) Jigsaw Puzzle
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-17/australia-needs-foreign-interfere...
Aust' Flag as Blu Jigsaw + Chinese Flag as Red Jigsaw + HUAWEI as Green Jigsaw
Also has muted Union Jack + wheat...( Ok! That's too similar & a little creepy! )
Have we got Double Agent Jigsaw Puzzlers that swap coded puzzle pieces?

tbb thinks the Missing Green Jigsaw pieces are a reminder to Aust Govt
China has an Unfinished Oz GREEN 5G Network (Couple of missing Pieces Mate!)
https://www.huawei.com/en/news/2020/7/bws-5g-whitepaper-analysys-mason-d...

Jan : Here's similar Weibo retribution on Denmark for a Chinese Covid Cartoon.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7948913/Chinese-swastika-Danish...

Just so you know! It only takes one cartoon to upset Chinese Citizens!
OZ must be mindful that the core rebellion is from the Chinese People.

Scomo is making out this is from the Chinese Govt...not so sure of that.
Oz Govt would do well to track down the artist to defuse the Hostilities.
Unless that's the plan...

Did an Australian coach, sponsor & hire the Chinese Artist?
There is a lot of Oz detail in there!

Clues:
1. XXXL Aussie Flag (That detail looks like a real Flag)
Oz Govt (stock) Made in China Flag by very rare suppliers.(Govt would know who?)
It's possible to sneak out an XXXL Oz Stadium Flag thru Covid Lockdowns?

2. Is that an Aussie Lamb..(No Oz live exports deliver lambs that young & not now!)
If it is an Aussie Lamb ...then obviously we're looking at an Oz film production!

3. Is OZ military Gear the full quid...again can ADF account for all Chinese stock!
If it's real then PM is in deeper shit! How the fuck a rebel Chinese Artist got it?

Doubt if an Aussie let alone a Chinese artist can get even one of those props off ebay.
Now tick those off & you would very quickly narrow down the Artist's Residence!
Propaganda, but is there a 3rd neutral player involved...coincidences are mounting.

tbb is nearly calling it, no artist in China is that flush to pull off exotic installation.
Think about it crew...all of us here together can't access all those Aussie props.
So how the fuck does a Chinese Street artist pimp a Spielberg Prop budget?

This is high end propaganda for some twisted Evil shit's pantomime.
Trump orders Big Flags + talks up China war + ramps bans on Chinese trade. Durr!

22 Oct ( Trump/Scomo ) Chinese Spy Moselmane returned to Parliament
12 Nov ALP Welcome Moselmane back into the Party.
No charges on anyone for anything at all to do with the raids..
Scomo will send you the $Trillion bill + upcoming compo suit as well!

Quad Sport > Trump has 4 eyes Mr Potato Head hacking into We chat.
Pretty sure China are sending a message to back off on that as well.

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Vic Local Tuesday, 1 Dec 2020 at 7:03am

Well played GS. Now where is my clean up rag?

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Blowin Tuesday, 1 Dec 2020 at 9:29am
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Blowin Tuesday, 1 Dec 2020 at 10:16am

Vic Local - Rather than egging on the destruction of our democracy so you can line fill your pockets with the crumbs which fall from the table when we cozy up to the CCP gangster regime , why don’t you just reskill into another industry which isn’t dependent on Australia forsaking it’s sovereignty ?

You’re always bleating about how stupid 60 year old brickies should reskill.

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velocityjohnno Tuesday, 1 Dec 2020 at 10:39am

Heya Blowin, good article, it asks what is their endgame? Would suggest it's a bit like I outlined in the historical past for Okinawa/Ryukaku group; ongoing influence (and back then, tribute) with elite trained in Beijing doing the admin - and general trade, prosperity being the focus. But all the rules being one way.