Disc problems. Stuart McGill or Medx?

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82shoes started the topic in Thursday, 24 Sep 2020 at 10:09am

Hi, has anyone with bulging, perforated discs (in my case L5/S1, L2/L3 as well as minor bulges in others in general area) had experience with Medx machines or the methods put forward by Stuart McGill?
I met with a surgeon 2-3 months ago who said if strengthening exercises don't work then disc replacement at L3/L3, fusion at L5/S1 is on the cards.
He then recommended the Medx machines.
Stuart McGill on the other hand is against the machines, and seems to back up his theories with a lot of science.
At present I'm trying both and while using the machines I feel great, but next day I'm getting referred nerve pain down the glutes and legs.....
It's frustrating, two opposed viewpoints with people testifying to their success.
I'm 59 and after surfing my whole life since gromhood I've now been out of the water for 6 months during the best winter I can remember here on the Goldy.....
Looking forward to hearing from you

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82shoes commented Friday, 25 Sep 2020 at 7:28am

I’d like to avoid surgery if I can as the results sound mixed, as are everyone’s particular issues.
I have not found or heard any comments about either method from a surfers point of view so I'm keen to hear comments from our perspective.

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crg commented Friday, 25 Sep 2020 at 9:43am

Hey 82...here's a little info from my personal experience which I hope helps.
I hit the top of my head at an angle which compressed my neck at C6/C7 and locked the facet joints and then transferred the impact pressure along my spine blowing out all the paraspinal muscles on the left of my spine and then hitting T3/T4 vertebrae and rupturing the disc and compressing the nerve root. I couldn't move my left arm for about 3 weeks and was off and on with traction and bracing for the first week and a bit.
I also wanted to avoid surgery as best I could so went the path of long term physical strengthening as my recovery. I was fortunate to have had an existing long term Ashtanga yoga practice which had given me a very strong and flexible spine at the time of the injury and which some of the specialists imagine may have saved me from more extensive or permanent injury.
The good news is that I was able to make a relatively complete recovery but which now requires a consistent and specific exercise program on a daily and/or regular basis. I don't know much about Medx machines but I used a modified program of stretches and strengthening techniques based on my existing yoga practice and a few targeted exercises from my osteopath.
You're going to want to ensure that whatever you choose to do works in a systemic and balanced method which creates an overall improvement in the condition and strength of your whole body not just your spine. Everything from how you place your feet when you walk and how that transfers energy into to your hips as an either balanced or imbalanced way will affect the base alignment of your spine. Your injury will have created coping mechanisms in the way you move to avoid pain which will have created imbalances and misalignments in the muscle structures which move your body around and hold your frame upright.
I'm a great believer in the capacity of the body to heal itself in a powerful way given correct attention to the wholistic connection of not just the musculoskeletal system but all systems within the body. But take your time. And get really good advice.
Best of luck mate, hope some of this info helps and you get back I the water when you can.

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82shoes commented Saturday, 26 Sep 2020 at 6:22pm

Thanks for your reply Crg, totally agree with the holistic approach as we are certainly made in an awesome way with everything contributing to the whole. Also on getting good advice, which was part of the original question as sometimes the advice seems good but conflicts with other advice that likewise seems good.....
Thanks again