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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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JQ commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 5:06pm

Geez, where's that leave you then cobba? Difficult to sink much further, really backing yourself into a corner.

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Rabbits68 commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 5:09pm

"Personally my view is that non-indigenous people should stay out of the debate unless they have something beyond snide one upmanship to contribute."

Agreed & well said BB.

"Burp not blip"

Cheers GS. Thanks for making the effort :-)

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 5:39pm

"Info, my resurch tells me Price isn’t a politician nor a leader nor a member of a political party nor does she represent an electorate. She is a Councillor with the City of Alice Springs (1of 5 the others all male). Been to the Alice info? Big in your face problems there info so I get Price’s agenda as a local councillor, good luck to her I wish her well in improving things in the Alice, but she’s vocal on the national stage too I read and that’s why she gets a gig on Fox, now who would have thunked that? Has strong views on Australia Day and all ... darling of the right I read"

Missed this one

Last year she ran for election in Lingiari NT with the country liberal party https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2019/guide/ling

She was councillor before that, but believe last year she took a break from her 4 year term to focus on her political aspirations, what is she is doing now?, im not sure, maybe she has returned to council?.

BTW. More nightmare of the left than darling of the right, an indigenous women that calls out cliche leftist BS around ingenious issues and tells it how it really is instead.

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factotum commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 5:48pm

And Sweetie is immeasurably more bigotted than Pauline...prove me wrong.

Right (with a capital R)?

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factotum commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 8:46pm

Yes, Info via the white voting NT public's fave grifter Pricey is really across the "ingenious issues"!

We can all see that!

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GuySmiley commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 5:55pm

Info says “..... the left and media and countless others have tried to bring her down ....” well actually it was Howard and especially Abbott who pursued her to the point where she did time in the big house .... fuck info fact check yourself will ya

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pauline-...

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JQ commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 6:21pm

Far from telling it how it is Indo, Price frames these issues from a right wing perspective. While she correctly identifies many issues, her ideology (which takes prime position above all else) will not allow her to accept or acknowledge the ongoing deleterious effects of colonisation and lingering racism.

She puts the cart before the horse and instead of actually looking at the issues she massages them to suit her ideology and make them palatable for a right wing audience. To do this she absolves the 'white man' (what ever you choose that term to mean) of any responsibility and pushes all the blame onto the indigenous people. This allows two very important things: no acceptance of acknowledgement of fault and for some good old finger pointing.

We can see this manifest in your delight at her, which centres not around her addressing these issues, but, in your own words:

"More nightmare of the left than darling of the right, an indigenous women that calls out cliche leftist BS around ingenious issues and tells it how it really is instead."

And rather unwittingly, you've identified her main appeal, the reason she gets the coverage she does in your chosen media outlets and from the right wing parties.

"nightmare of the left"

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 6:29pm

Which only further reinforces what she has been up against and the battler she is. most people would have given up at the first hurdle, just look at Peter Garret, didn't last very long chewed up and spat out.

I also didn't mention those within her own party that have worked against her.

BTW. "countless others" covers anyone else i might have forgotten.

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 7:11pm

What tripe JQ (Id go into more depth, but got the footy to watch, but basically the opposite of what you are saying)

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JQ commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 6:35pm

Why thank you Indo, I consider that high praise!

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GuySmiley commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 6:54pm

Bahahahaha, comedy gold from info

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blowfly commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 7:17pm
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I focus commented Monday, 14 Sep 2020 at 11:15pm

ID opinions like Prices ran Australian policy for indigenous for a very long time before you were born. question is how did that end up?

Hint, cluster fu(k.

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indo-dreaming commented Tuesday, 15 Sep 2020 at 7:34am

I focus More complete tripe Jacinta's views, people like Anthony dillion's views (views i share) are nothing like views of the past you obviously have NFI what their views are or my views.

Anyway good interview related to the topic with four different Indigenous Australians https://www.facebook.com/nyunggai/videos/896445357513696

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factotum commented Tuesday, 15 Sep 2020 at 10:54am

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Actually, the joke isn't funny anymore.

Info, you should start your own "ingenious" thread, champ.

Nah, really.

You've done your own thread thing before.

https://www.swellnet.com/comment/678602

Ya never know your luck...

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factotum commented Tuesday, 15 Sep 2020 at 10:38am

Back on track, has anyone ever watched the series VEEP? I've been binge-watching of late.

Funny but horrendous. How close to the bone is it, I wonder?

Actually, remember when Turnbull's version of the Libs used one of the show's slogans??

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-23/continuity-with-change-veep-creat...

Too close to the bone, indeed!

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thermalben commented Tuesday, 15 Sep 2020 at 11:36am

Been meaning to watch that Facto.

Really enjoyed the first couple of seasons of House Of Cards, until Trump started, well, trumping their plot lines. 

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factotum commented Tuesday, 15 Sep 2020 at 1:49pm

Haha. Too true, Ben.

I thought the last series of Rake suffered mainly because it couldn't out-wacky the reality here in Canberra!

Re: VEEP, the characters are gold. All of them. For mine, 'Jonad' and Richard Splett especially. Well, for now anyway.

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factotum commented Wednesday, 16 Sep 2020 at 11:59am
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zenagain commented Wednesday, 16 Sep 2020 at 3:55pm

Nasty.

1173

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factotum commented Sunday, 20 Sep 2020 at 7:38pm
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factotum commented Monday, 21 Sep 2020 at 12:38pm

From the Sons & Daughters of Liberty:

"So you can brace yourself properly and not waste time on doomed wishful thinking, there is no scenario where Trump doesn't get to fill this vacancy. Not one. The GOP has a few options available, we will run through them from most to least-likely.

1) McConnell will begin the vetting process for Trump's nominee, but will not schedule the vote until after the election happens (but before inauguration).
There are a number of reasons for this:
- It immediately throws Trump the one lifeline that could plausibly save him. The peculiarity of SCotUS appointments is not going to be clear to many people, so a message of "YOU MUST RE-ELECT ME SO WE CAN FILL THIS VACANCY WITH A 35 YEAR OLD MISOGYNISTIC FASCIST THEOCRAT" will seem credible, which absolutely worked for him in 2016.
- It protects the five or six Republican Senators at risk of losing their seats from having to make the choice between opposing a Trump nominee, thus angering their base and further pissing off moderates by breaking "The McConnell Rule" and voting for a SCotUS nominee in the year prior to an election.
- They don't need to VOTE prior to the election to install their chosen MAGA CHUD on the Supreme Court. If Biden wins, they will vote in the Lame Duck window between the election and the inauguration.

2) McConnell will begin the vetting process for Trump's nominee and let it run for a long time, but will not schedule the vote until after the inauguration happens.
If Trump wins and they hold the Senate, they could potentially wait until after the inauguration to try and buttress the idea that McConnell was "fair" about the process both now and in 2016.

3) McConnell DOES push for a vote ahead of November. There's really only one reason for this, and it's kind of a 9th Dimensional Chess gambit:
McConnell plans to offer up a sacrificial nominee for imperiled purple state Senators to BOLDLY OPPOSE, thus allowing the Susan Collinses of the world to shake off the baggage that carrying water for Trump for four years has saddled them with.
This is risky and requires McConnell to care enough about saving the Senate that he'd be willing to strip Trump of the aforementioned advantage of having an open SCotUS seat in the front of every reactionary mind in the country. Which is PLAUSIBLE, but unlikely."