Bilge Shunter, I mean Blurt Shirter, I mean Bill Shorten.

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Sheepdog started the topic in Tuesday, 24 Nov 2015 at 11:56am

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Optimist Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 6:33am

Labor have a new leader Blowin, they have been grooming him up in secret...His name is Milton Something.

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Blowin Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 6:59am

Last one ( hopefully).

This is all the ALP has to do...https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/05/destroy-scomo-eighteen-months/

Oh , and word up the retards within their ranks who aren’t smart enough to discern between reducing immigration and racism. Assuming there’s anyone in the ALP that qualifies. Political expediency is a surprisingly good teacher though !

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zenagain Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 8:47am

So there were 87 confirmed breaches of the act, no punitive action taken on any and the Guardian cherry picks 5 to once again suit their narrative. It would help if we could see all 87 to make an informed judgement. Who's the cheater here?

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mcbain Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 8:50am

Shit, I just realised BB and I live in the same electorate. Which end, love to dissect the result over a beer.

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blindboy Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 9:26am

South mcbain.

zen as far as I can see there is not a complete list on the AEC website. That given I suspect The Guardian's list is simply those cases that were exposed during the campaign. If I find the whole list I will provide the link, at which point I strongly believe that you will have to withdraw your accusation of cherry picking.

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zenagain Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 9:25am

if so, will do.

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zenagain Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 9:26am

btw, lf BB, if you find yourself back visiting Japan, happy to host you. Got quite a few waves around my area.

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blindboy Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 9:46am

Thanks zen that's a great offer. No plans at the moment but happy to host you on the south coast of NSW if you are ever in the area. There is a really strong Japanese community here.

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blindboy Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 11:59am

From Slate which usually takes no interest in Australian politics.

"But it’s not just about the far right. Progressive Australians are reeling because any lingering illusions that we were a “fair” nation have been shattered. Whatever Labor’s political shortcomings, Australians in general voted against a detailed platform that aimed to seriously address climate change, raise wages, increase cancer funding, make child care free or significantly cheaper, close tax loopholes for corporations and the wealthy, fund the arts, fund the underfunded public broadcaster, and begin the serious work needed to improve the lives of Indigenous Australians including electing the nation’s first indigenous affairs minister. Instead, they voted for … not much of anything (other than some tax cuts), even after two dysfunctional terms of it. After this defeat, it’s unlikely Labor will come up with anything this ambitious again. Many believed (or hoped) we were going the way of New Zealand, whose Labour Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern recently topped a list of Australia’s most trusted politicians, but we went in the opposite direction. And while Australians hoping for a more progressive Australia have had their hopes dashed, so too have refugees being kept on Manus Island under our draconian asylum-seeker policies (previously overseen by Morrison)."

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sypkan Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 12:24pm

The 'list' doesn't matter if you're not convincing

The problem was no confidence. In bill, or even the wider team really. You can spruik the list of good intentions all you want, but if the public have no confidence in your team's ability to do the job, they're not going to take a risk, especiallly with stormy seas on the horizon.

Jacinda adern? Seriously?

Pining for something you never had isn't going to fix anything...

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sypkan Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 12:22pm

Something a little closer to 'analysis'...

"...Picture a dinner party where half the guests are university graduates with prestigious white-collar jobs, with the other half consisting of people who are trade workers, barmaids, cleaners and labourers. While one side of the table trades racy jokes and uninhibited banter, the other half tut-tuts this “problematic” discourse."

"...In an interview conducted on Sunday morning, Deputy Labor leader Tanya Plibersek opined that if only her party had more time to explain to the various groups how much they’d all benefit from Labor’s plans, Australians would have realized how fortunate they’d be with a Labor government, and Shorten would’ve become Prime Minister. Such attitudes are patronizing, for they implicitly serve to place blame at the feet of voters, who apparently are too ignorant to know what’s good for them.

What the election actually shows us is that the so-called quiet Australians, whether they are tradies (to use the Australian term) in Penrith, retirees in Bundaberg, or small business owners in Newcastle, are tired of incessant scolding from their purported superiors. Condescension isn’t a good look for a political movement.

Taking stock of real voters’ needs would require elites to exhibit a spirit of empathic understanding—such as by way of acknowledging that blue-collar workers have good reason to vote down parties whose policies would destroy blue-collar jobs; or that legal immigrants might oppose opening up a nation’s border to migrants who arrive illegally. More broadly, the modern progressive left has lost touch with the fact that what ordinary people want from their government is a spirit of respect, dignity and hope for the future. While the fetish for hectoring and moral puritanism has become popular in rarefied corners of arts and academia, it is deeply off-putting to voters whose sense of self extends beyond cultish ideological tribalism.

The class-based realignment of party politics isn’t unique to my country. All over the world, left-wing parties increasingly are being co-opted by politicians who reflect the attitudes and priorities of voters with higher incomes and education levels, while right-wing parties increasingly attract blue-collar workers who’ve become alienated by parties that once championed the little guy. It’s been three years since Donald Trump became the Republican presidential nominee, and so this phenomenon no longer can be described as new or dismissed as transient. Yet progressives seem to imagine that it can be dispelled, as if by a magic spell, simply by incanting the right hash tags or bleating mantras about anti-racism.

No centre-left party in the Anglosphere has adapted to the ongoing class realignment. Indeed, they lack even the vocabulary to explain what such adaptation would entail—which is why the left’s recent election losses, from Alberta to Adelaide, are blithely chalked up to voter xenophobia or ignorance (a response that, of course, only serves to make their brand problem worse). Until the left finds a way out of this endless loop of toxic pre-election posturing and post-election blame-shifting, such supposedly “shocking” results as was witnessed on Saturday are going to remain a regular occurrence."

The problem is, ...ironically ...again, but ironically off the scale this time...

That those so obsessed with language, simply don't have the language to address the problem.

"No centre-left party in the Anglosphere has adapted to the ongoing class realignment. Indeed, they lack even the vocabulary to explain what such adaptation would entail..."

Now I wonder how that could've possibly happened?

Maybe ask an old dog

https://quillette.com/2019/05/20/at-australian-ballot-boxes-the-lefts-em...

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factotum Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 12:46pm

"...Picture a dinner party where half the guests are university graduates with prestigious white-collar jobs, with the other half consisting of people who are trade workers, barmaids, cleaners and labourers. While one side of the table trades racy jokes and uninhibited banter, the other half tut-tuts this “problematic” discourse."

Blew it from the start. What a crock of shit!

But a fascinating insight into the author's (and your's) worldview! Just missing maybe a 'noble savage', an 'Asian', a 'gay' etc. All on the 'salt-of-the-Earth' side of the table or with the Uni crew with the 'prestigious' jobs?

A seat at the table at all?

Maybe rocking up with the Uber-eats? Doing the serving and dishes afterwards?

As for your 'public confidence' blurt, how does one gain that? Where do the public get the chance?

You reckon you're across stuff in the media, and yet some of the drip-fed crap you regurgitate??

And yet, that's how it works. Ya just gotta be aware of it.

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sypkan Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 1:24pm

"As for your 'public confidence' blurt, how does one gain that? Where do the public get the chance?"

One gains that by being competent ...or at least appearing to be...

They also gain that by being personable, trustworty, believable ...or at least appearing to be...

It's not that hard, revise indod's post if you must, gawd knows you guys must have given your focus group tripe more than a quick glance.

How many millions of the public's money did you spend on that rubbish? And the PR leaches?

Time to sack the lot and put indod on the payroll

Or give me a call, I'll do it for free. Your plight is so desperate and hapless its the least I can do...

You've got an image problem and an identity problem - they're interrelated...

See, I can do PR as well...

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sypkan Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 1:55pm

"But a fascinating insight into the author's (and your's) worldview! Just missing maybe a 'noble savage', an 'Asian', a 'gay' etc. All on the 'salt-of-the-Earth' side of the table or with the Uni crew with the 'prestigious' jobs?

A seat at the table at all?

Maybe rocking up with the Uber-eats? Doing the serving and dishes afterwards?"

Nah mate, that little exchange is more telling about your worldview than anybody elses...

tut tut

an identity problem ...again...the irony!

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factotum Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 2:02pm

"Where do the public get the chance?"

Whoooosh! Through to the keeper.

The real PR problem = being totally susceptible to it.

Clive knows. The Prime Marketer knows. When will the public know??

Hahahaha. Never point out to someone that's been stooged that they've been stooged. It makes them angry. Usually at whoever's pointing it out!

Downward coward-punching is a lot easier than looking and punching up.

As was posted here previously via Gittins,

"In this era of unreal reality game shows, and multitudes of disillusioned, disengaged voters, the most successful politicians are those best at show biz...

Morrison spent five weeks performing for the cameras to the exclusion of all others, and the electorate warmed to what it saw. Perhaps what Labor needs is a casting director."

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factotum Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 2:04pm

Ah, old Ross. Maybe you missed it, Syppy?

"In this country, the only envy that works is the downward variety. Envy the jobless for being able to eat without working, or the Indigenous for the extra help they get? Sure.

This government has spent its time beating up on boat people, public servants and those on welfare and, in the process, has gained more votes than it’s lost.

The well-off may have benefited from a lot more good luck (as I have) than it suits them to admit, but they are adept at convincing the punters than an attack on my five dollars is an attack on your five cents."

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mcbain Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 9:41pm

Hey BB, south of the MYA River? If so, getting closer and closer. Understand you enjoy your anonymity, so don't want to put you on the spot. The Air Raid is a popular haunt on a Thurs or Friday arvo.

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blindboy Thursday, 23 May 2019 at 10:23am

mcbain I have asked Stu to send you my email.