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Shatner'sBassoon started the topic in Friday, 6 Nov 2015 at 7:48pm

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mattlock commented Sunday, 17 Mar 2019 at 1:26pm

I'm embarrassed Facto.

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factotum commented Sunday, 17 Mar 2019 at 3:23pm

Speaking of embarrassment, here's another one from the archives for those that think Anning's operating in some kind of political vacuum.

https://newmatilda.com/2014/06/22/white-supremacists-target-jewish-lawye...

This could go on all day...

(Hang on, is that scurrying I can hear? The frenzied tap-tap-tapping of the keyboard? Both?)

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Westofthelake commented Sunday, 17 Mar 2019 at 3:41pm

Yep facto thats our Scomo expressing HIS Godlike qualities.

From your link above, (with some poetic licence applied)

"If we didn't let eggs into the country, I wouldn't get attacked" - Frasier Anning.

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zenagain commented Sunday, 17 Mar 2019 at 10:27pm

Ha Ha!

especially those brown eggs.

Watashi wa metabo oyagi desu.

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factotum commented Monday, 18 Mar 2019 at 7:19pm

"Cronulla was a milestone in the development of a more forthright, ugly public nationalism in Australia. Now young men wear flags as capes on Australia Day, a date which is seen as a calculated insult by many Indigenous people. Anzac Day, which commemorates a failed invasion of Turkey, was once a far more ambivalent occasion. In recent years it has moved closer to becoming an open celebration of militarism and imperialism.

Every step of the way, this process has not been hindered by outlets owned by News Corp, which dominates Australia’s media market in a way which citizens of other Anglophone democracies can find difficult to comprehend.

News Corp has the biggest-selling newspapers in the majority of metropolitan media markets, monopolies in many regional markets, the only general-readership national daily, and the only cable news channel. Its influence on the national news agenda remains decisive. And too often it has used this influence to demonise Muslims.

On Anzac Day 2017, a prominent young Australian Muslim woman, Yassmin Abdel-Magied, posted on her personal Facebook page, “LEST.WE.FORGET. (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine…)”, which appeared to draw an equivalence between the suffering of Muslims around the world today, and that of Australia’s diggers during the first world war.

News Corp outlets – especially the Australian – howled about her supposed disrespect for months. Opportunistic conservative politicians lined up to condemn her. Towards the end of the year, she decamped for London, and in a television appearance compared Australia to an “abusive boyfriend”.

On the other hand, News Corp has been far more solicitous to touring grifters from the “alt-right” movement. They gave softball interviews and free publicity to Milo Yiannopoulos, Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux ahead of their national tours. They also gave Gavin McInnes the soft touch, but his plans were aborted when he was denied a visa on character grounds.

More significantly still, News Corp has itself recently run campaigns based on white nationalist talking points.

A year ago, Sydney’s Daily Telegraph ran reports on the alleged plight of white farmers in South Africa, in a way that echoed far-right myths about “white genocide”. This worked well enough to elicit a short-lived policy proposal from the immigration minister to give white farmers “special attention”.

News Corp also had a big hand in promoting the idea over the last few years that “African gangs” were holding the city of Melbourne to ransom. This campaign was also in lockstep with the rhetoric of local neo-Nazis such as Blair Cottrell.

And last August, News Corp’s most influential rightwing pundit, Andrew Bolt, wrote a column which explicitly raised the prospect of demographic replacement – a recurring obsession of the white nationalists.

Bolt depicted a possible future in which a “tidal wave of immigrants sweeps away our national identity”. For Bolt – who has previously been found to have breached Australia’s Racial Discrimination Act – the country was under demographic attack."

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factotum commented Monday, 18 Mar 2019 at 7:20pm

"This normalisation of white nationalist concepts is also visible in politics. Senator Fraser Anning has had a hit of global social media fame this week after he appeared to blame the victims of the Christchurch massacre, and again when a young protester cracked an egg on Anning’s bald pate.

Anning is hardly alone – white nationalist anxieties have continually surfaced at the heart of Australia’s political process. In 2016 the Australian Senate held an inquiry into halal food, in which senators asked questions which appeared to owe a debt to rightwing conspiracy theories about certification funding terrorism.

Anning himself was elected as a result of the revival of Australian anti-immigrant populist party, One Nation, whose recent elected members have included an alleged sovereign citizen. Last year the Australian Senate almost passed a motion that “It’s OK to be white”, which would have seen a 4chan meme approved by the national parliament.

Just last week, publicity-hungry former Labor leader Mark Latham, now running for state office with One Nation, suggested that self-identified Indigenous people be DNA tested before they receive welfare.

And at least until Friday, it looked like a desperate conservative national government might run a race-based election, reaching once more for the same playbook the party has used for decades. (In 2011, the current prime minister Scott Morrison reportedly recommended an anti-Muslim election strategy to his Liberal party colleagues). Former race discrimination commissioner Tim Soutphommasane said the government was “campaigning on fear, seeking to incite hysteria about asylum seekers and border security”.

Australia now has a public collection of open white nationalists – from antisemitic podcasters to would-be infiltrators of mainstream conservative parties.

They need to be understood in their proper context: the decades-long drumbeat of xenophobia and Muslim-hate, which has issued from some of the most powerful institutions in the country.

This is the environment in which Muslims, refugees and immigrants have come to be understood as enemies of Australia. It may be an environment that has nurtured white supremacist terror."

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 18 Mar 2019 at 7:36pm

OMG WTF is this?

Has factotum actually posted a post longer than a few sentences and shared a personal opinion???

Or is this copied and pasted from elsewhere?

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Blowin commented Monday, 18 Mar 2019 at 7:40pm

Cut and paste

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factotum commented Monday, 18 Mar 2019 at 7:46pm

Larry, we realise you're not the sharpest tool in the Swellnet shed, but now you're even embarrassing Moe.

Now where's Curly?

(Psssst, see the "..." bits, numpty?)

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factotum commented Tuesday, 19 Mar 2019 at 9:23am

For the 'waste of friggin' time', 'wilfully pig ignorant' non- readers:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/17/australians-are-as...

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Westofthelake commented Tuesday, 19 Mar 2019 at 9:27pm

Watching (kindof) a show on sbs and guess who shows up on a NSW liberal tv ad threatening that if you vote for Labour at this weekends election, "Gun laws will become weakened"?

John bloody Howard!

(You couldn't make this shit up)

In light of recent events why the fark would any government want to 'weaken' gun laws?
Dumb political desperation from the experts.

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wally commented Tuesday, 19 Mar 2019 at 9:49pm

John Howard, I'm not a fan. Yes, gun laws, that was good. But really, otherwise, he did a lot of bad things.

It is bizarre that now this hardline, racist, sexist, right-wing warrior (imo) trades so heavily on the one left/liberal thing he ever did. Gun laws.

Really, John?

It does seem funnily appropriate, the mystery of genetics etc, that age has made him look like such a crazy old coot.

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factotum commented Tuesday, 19 Mar 2019 at 10:43pm

John Winston Howard, the unflushable political turd, trading in the only thing he knows: FEAR.

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simba commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 7:28am

John Winston Howard, the unflushable political turd,

good description.!

simba

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stunet commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:05am

If you're curious to see how a 47-year-old fares against surfers 30 years his junior in one foot waves..well, aren't you in luck!

http://www.worldsurfleague.com/posts/376034/its-on-day-3-of-the-vissla-sydney-surf-pro

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:22am

"Fraser Anning may be vile, but he is also calculating. He is saying the quiet part loud. This government and its leading figures have long said the loud part quietly by stoking fear and hatred for electoral gain in every election since 2001.

In this, they have been assisted by media companies routinely amplifying their racist messaging to consolidate audiences and secure falling profits in a severely disrupted industry. It was always going to end badly, this business of whispering the loud part quietly. And so it has, the whispers drowned out by gunfire and screaming in Christchurch."

"What Eggboy did was instantly disrupt Anning's reframing of a massacre in a way none of the professional journalists in that room were capable.

By uncritically reporting his comments, they were merely assisting Anning’s efforts, not exposing them, as the conventional wisdom would have it.

Will Connolly reduced him to a figure of ridicule and contempt.

And that should be the response whenever a politician or a columnist or a talkback host or WHOEVER attempts to enlarge themselves by belittling others with racist dog whistling.

After Christchurch, there can be no excuses for pretending surprise and alarm when you blow that whistle and the dogs come running."

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/how-eggboy-cracked-...

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stunet commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:37am

Kelly cocooned the kids.

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:54am

"As I have observed, those who plow iniquity, and those who sow trouble, reap the same." - Job 4:8

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blindboy commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 12:13pm

Worth checking the numbers on that live stream Stu. Triple figures or less?

Laurie McGinness

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stunet commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 12:23pm

Peaked at around 700 concurrents when KS surfed then halved as soon as the hooter went. Still sitting around 350 now.

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Sheepdog commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 12:47pm

Erdogans comments were clumsy. But lets get some context in regards to the Australian mass murderer terrorists manifesto , which is MASSIVE news in Turkey, given the threats to Turkey and it's leader.
From the Washington Post, march 18;

"A 74-page manifesto purportedly written by Tarrant and circulated online threatened violence against Turkey, its citizens and its president. Erdogan’s name appears under a section titled, “Kill High Profile Enemies,”

"It also warns Turkey’s citizens against living on the European side of Istanbul. “We are coming for Constantinople and we will destroy every mosque and minaret in the city,” it said, referring to the city."

Now, in the shadow of Trumpisms and Dutarte rants, is it any surprise that Erdogan would react this way after a crazed Australian gun man murderer calls for him to be assassinated and Turkish mosques to be attacked?

Context, people.

Sheepdog

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blindboy commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 1:28pm

I tend to agree Sheepdog. It was over-stated for domestic consumption before the election, but if you look at what he said, it warned against anti-Muslim attacks in Turkey and threatened the perpetrators as well as those who came with anti-Muslim attitudes. Apart from anything else it seemed like good advice to me. The political reaction here would suggest that it was a broad threat against ordinary Australians and New Zealanders.

Laurie McGinness

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 1:48pm

So you’d recommend the same style of speech by the Aussie Prime Minister towards a broad cross section of the Muslim community in case they harboured any potential threats to Australia ?

Muslims going home in caskets etc

Good advice ?

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blindboy commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 2:00pm

If there is an online course in "subtlety" Blowin, take it please. I will pay. I reckon if you have a steak dinner, you eat the whole steak before you even notice the veggies! As I said above Erdogan over-stated for domestic consumption. There is also a difference between how I believe Australian leaders do behave and how they should behave. So, I will try to keep,this simple, I don't believe Australian leaders SHOULD make statements of that kind. Unfortunately I do believe that Australian leaders COULD make similar statements for the same reason as Erdogan.

Oh and "good advice" ? I will upgrade that to excellent advice. If you hold anti-Muslim opinions, yes your life could easily be in danger if you expressed them in Turkey in the present circumstances. Do I think that is fair and just? No! Sensible? Absolutely.

Laurie McGinness

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 2:06pm

But isn’t that basically the same over the top bullshit that the Aussie pollies are getting pilloried for ? Considering the various disrupted threats and actual attacks over the years , was their speech regarding the treatment and threat of potential Muslim terrorists accurate, but clumsy ?

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blindboy commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 2:21pm

If Morrison was genuinely concerned about the safety of Australians he would have been much more moderate in his response and emphasised that the threat was against those holding anti-Muslim opinions. Instead he has created unnecessary alarm ......... for domestic consumption prior to the election.

Laurie McGinness

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 5:58pm

Prime Marketer ProMo is genuinely concerned about his political arse. And that's about it.

Him and his political & media ilk have been pushing the FEAR barrow for decades, and now when as their bible says "as I have observed, those who plow iniquity, and those who sow trouble, reap the same", they are scurrying around blaming everything - madness, social media, ANYTHING - but themselves. And it's as disingenuous and transparent as all get-out. And embarrassing. And moronic. And poisonous.

But hey, at the very, very least, they do get paid, I guess. Though that is a very, very lowly excuse.

What are the stooges' on here's excuses?

Let alone that Christchurch scumbag for that matter?

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:04pm

Actually, who gives a toss about their excuses.

Chuck them all in the bin.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 5:57pm

Tomorrow is the United Nations International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.

https://www.harmony.gov.au/about/

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 8:54pm

Cool.

In honour of the day can you name all the races not guilty of racism ?

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 10:31pm

Holy shit !

Crikey has seen the truth.....finally.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/03/20/coalition-immigration-policy/

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:00pm

Here’s one for the two most sheepishly minded “free thinkers “ you’ll ever have to endure.

Facto and Blindboy.

Oh , it’s going to cut Facto when Marx himself labels him a Useful Idiot . Facto’s go to insult .

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/11/the-left-case-against-open-bo...

How long can these two morons maintain the facade to themselves that the ideas they’ve eaten straight from the baited hook are virtuous, moral and appropriate?

Probably forever. Such is the power of pride over reason.

What’s that comrade ? You say your idol thinks you’re just a nose- led fuckwit !? And he’s right !

Hilarious.

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:03pm

Time in NSW? Yep, pissed. Again.

Just don't go scurrying afterwards with your infamous self-redaction:

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:04pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:23pm

Get creative.

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Sheepdog commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:31pm

Blowin writes -
"So you’d recommend the same style of speech by the Aussie Prime Minister towards a broad cross section of the Muslim community in case they harboured any potential threats to Australia ?
Muslims going home in caskets etc
Good advice ?"

Did I not call Erdogens comments clumsy?
Perhaps Erdogan should've said he's simply Shirtfront Aussies? Would that be suffice, Blowin?

I'm gonna do a "Boltism".....
Perhaps now is a good time to discuss Australias macabre fascination with celebrating the failed invasion of Turkey in ww1, Anzac day was never a celebration when i was young. You never had drunk bogans wearing flags as capes. It was a quiet sombre day of reflection. I personally cringe on the 25th of April. Our politicians have turned the day into a freakshow circus.
We invaded a sovereign nation that we had no beef with. We make demands of them, on what they do with THEIR land, land we tried to invade. We go there and in fine Australian style and trash the place.
Anzac day disgusts me.

Sheepdog

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:43pm

The One Day Of The Year by Alan Seymour.

Studied it at school.

It was written in 1958!

I'm old but not that old.

Fuck Big John Winston Howard's cheap-arse rose-coloured sunnies.

Blu-Blockers were funny, but.

Up to a point.

https://youtu.be/_Png-PC0ews

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factotum commented Wednesday, 20 Mar 2019 at 11:42pm

And Blowie re:

"In honour of the day can you name all the races not guilty of racism ?"

Fuck fake equivalence.

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sypkan commented Thursday, 21 Mar 2019 at 8:54am

"I'm gonna do a "Boltism".....
Perhaps now is a good time to discuss Australias macabre fascination with celebrating the failed invasion of Turkey in ww1, Anzac day was never a celebration when i was young. You never had drunk bogans wearing flags as capes. It was a quiet sombre day of reflection. I personally cringe on the 25th of April. Our politicians have turned the day into a freakshow circus.
We invaded a sovereign nation that we had no beef with. We make demands of them, on what they do with THEIR land, land we tried to invade. We go there and in fine Australian style and trash the place.
Anzac day disgusts me."

Couldn't agree more with this.

I'm not one to heed travel warnings, but fucked if I'd be going there this year. If one good thing can come from all this madness it'll be the end of this fascination and glorification of galipoli

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factotum commented Thursday, 21 Mar 2019 at 12:35pm

Take a sickie today, Greg Hunt can vouch for you.

https://junkee.com/scott-morrison-greg-hunt/198735?fbclid=IwAR2m2aAhJNQn...

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Westofthelake commented Thursday, 21 Mar 2019 at 3:30pm

How to be a Christian and vote for the Liberal Party by default.

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yocal commented Thursday, 21 Mar 2019 at 8:10pm

number 20 is very discreet indeed.

Go deeper Taylor, go deeper!

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 21 Mar 2019 at 8:30pm

Anyone a fan of Jim Jeffries?

Don't really know much on him but i thought he was left leaning, but he has just been busted big time by a hidden camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odCQhAezB_Q

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factotum commented Thursday, 21 Mar 2019 at 11:24pm

Peanut alert.

Do you know anything about the dipshit in that link, Avi Yemini?

https://www.ajds.org.au/2018/06/avi-yemini-consorts-nazis/

That's twice he's been posted on Swellnet.

Not a good look.

Before was by the other stooge.

Are you a fan, Larry?

(Pssst, that's a rhetorical question. No need to answer)

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factotum commented Thursday, 21 Mar 2019 at 10:45pm

Speaking of stooges, what a performance tonight by ProMo our Prime Marketer.

Fascinating.

Apart from the usual gobbledygook speaking manner we all know and love, and confirming that he raised anti-Muslim sentiment in the shadow cabinet meeting (but only "to address them” & “to seek to alleviate them”...yeah, right...it was the question he walked out of yesterday in his press conference!), how was the body language and demeanor?

It was the living embodiment of bullshit.

Oh yeah, another one for all you ProMo fan-boys, remember this?

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/the-big-problem-with-scott-morris...

And then there was this!

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/13/political-circus-...

So that's how ya do it...

Got that, Ardern?

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Westofthelake commented Thursday, 21 Mar 2019 at 11:15pm

I watched some it and got disinterested quickly. I did see this part "to address them” & “to seek to alleviate them”.
Thats ScoMo's interpretation of 'exploit' it seems.
I got a slight impression he was trying to channel the 'unflushable turd' at times.

As a sidenote a fb friend posted a copy of a signed letter from PM ScoMo congratulating her for having her 50th birthday. Unsurprisingly she commented "I might even vote for you now."
Say no more.

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factotum commented Thursday, 21 Mar 2019 at 11:37pm

His tin-ear and shit marketing certainly didn't do anything for Matthew Guy in Victoria...well, anything positive.

We'll see how Gladys fares this weekend.

Regardless, federally, I reckon BBQ-dad is cooked.

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 22 Mar 2019 at 8:13am

@Factum

In the other thread, i tell how i came cross his video and what i think of him, although i know very little about him, I'm not a fan.

That video above came up in my Youtube feed because i watched his video yesterday, but it's kind of irrelevant what you or me think about him, he busted that comedian big time for not only blatantly misrepresenting him, but also for saying some shit about Islam that could see his life endangered and career ending stuff.

BTW. that article was pretty shitty basically guilt by association.

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Westofthelake commented Friday, 22 Mar 2019 at 9:59am

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factotum commented Friday, 22 Mar 2019 at 10:19am

Classic cartoon, Westo, and so on the money.