Mixed bag of NE and S'ly swells; hard to find motivation

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 25th September)

Best Days: Tues: fun easing NE swell with light winds; biggest Gold/Tweed coasts. Thurs: fun combo of early S'ly swell and small peaky NE swell, with winds tending offshore south of about Byron. Fri: light winds and small peaky waves in Northern NSW (only small in SE Qld). Sun: solid building S'ly groundswell. 

Recap: Enjoying these northerlies? I’m not. They blew, and blew, and blew and blew all weekend. Sure, they kicked up some windswell - peaked Sunday afternoon, eased a little this morning but came up again this afternoon - but does it matter when conditions are atrocious? To be fair, parts of the Mid North Coast saw reasonable conditions today with generally lighter winds and peaky NE swells. So it hasn't been all doom and gloom, unless you're in the Far North or SE Qld.

Tweed buoy trace for the last few days

This week (Sep 26 - Sep 29)

Tuesday looks potentially pretty good, all things considering the last couple of weeks. 

A weak front will slide up the NSW coast tonight, bringing a southerly change to Northern NSW, though without any great strength. If anywhere, the Mid North Coast may see moderate to fresh S’ly winds at times but it’s not expected to cause to many problems. 

Prior to this, the current N’ly flow will continue overnight and thus maintain N’ly windswell across the region, though a slight easing is expected into Tuesday, especially south from Ballina (the most size will again be seen across the Gold and Tweed Coasts). 

More importantly, this approaching change will disrupt the northerly regime in the early hours of Tuesday morning and cause winds to become light and variable, which will in turn clean up conditions. It’ll be far from perfect but there’ll be waves around the coast with many more options than the last few days. 

North-facing beaches on the Gold and Tweed Coasts should see some 3ft sets early, before easing during the day. It'll be smaller away from the swell magnets though.

Also, we can expect smaller south from Ballina (say, 2ft at exposed spots and easing); most of the fetch will be across SE Qld waters and if anything, slightly N/NW in alignment which isn’t good for locations further south. 

However - and Sunny Coast surfers are gonna be pretty down about this - the southerly 'change' (if you can call it that; there won't be much strength) is modelled only to influence coastal winds north to about Brisbane or thereabouts. As such we’ll probably continue to see N’ly winds through Tuesday (though lighter than what we have seen for the last few days). To rub it in, surf size will be smaller here than on the Gold Coast owing to a short fetch length. 

This local windswell will ease rapidly into Wednesday, to be replaced by a building S’ly swell generated by a strong front is exiting eastern Bass Strait today. In fact the Mid North Coast should see a little kick in size from the south late Tuesday

Wednesday will see the most size from this system, with occasional 2-3ft sets at south facing beaches south of Byron. Unfortunately, an approaching trough of low pressure will strengthen winds from the N/NE throughout the day, rendering most beaches very bumpy (so get in early, and aim for a protected northern corner). 

In general, Wednesday’s winds will be very poor for SE Qld but there’ll be only small residual NE windswell anyway, and the south swell won’t really get in here either. 

Gusty N’ly winds overnight Wednesday will generate a NE swell for Thursday morning, and conditions will clean up rapidly as a front crosses the coast, bringing a W’ly change to the Mid North Coast (more NW across Northern NSW, N/NW into SE Qld). However, the orientation of the trough means that we’ll see the biggest waves further south, with only small surf on offer north from Coffs Harbour (the NE peak in size wil be brief too, easing during the day). Wednesday’s south swell will be on the way out but there’ll be a few small leftovers at exposed beaches.

For what it’s worth, model data is suggesting the N’ly flow may persist about the Sunny Coast for most of Thursday, rendering all beaches very bumpy. Argh!

These persistent northerlies off SE Qld waters may kick up some more local windswell for the Gold and Tweed Coast later Thursday but it’ll ease rapidly into Friday. Winds should swing light and variable for Friday as a trough crosses the coast, but you’ll have to aim for the morning session for the most size. 

Across Northern NSW, we should see a small blend of leftover N’ly windswell and small new S’ly swell on Friday, generated by a front crossing Tasmanian latitudes on Thursday. This should provide occasional 2-3ft sets to south facing beaches south of Byron, with smaller surf elsewhere.  Conditions should be clean with early offshore winds and afternoon sea breezes. 

This weekend (Sep 30 - Oct 1)

Whoa! There’s some pretty serious frontal activity progged for the Tasmanian region later this week, which should set up a strong south swell for the weekend.

There are several sources of energy for the weekend’s waves - W/SW gales exiting eastern Bass Strait, and then a broad post-frontal SW flow extending south to a deep polar low that’s modelled to see core winds of 60kts+ late Friday and early Saturday, close to the Ice Shelf. 

Confidence is not high on the timing of the peak but current model indications suggest sometime later Sunday, up to 4-6ft at south facing beaches south of Byron Bay, and smaller surf elsewhere. 

Prior to this we should see a solid, though smaller kick throughout Saturday afternoon across the Mid North Coast. Expect much smaller residual surf in the morning

SE Qld will remain small for much of the weekend ahead of a late kick in south swell on Sunday afternoon to 1-2ft across the outer points, and 3ft+ across exposed northern ends. Winds will probably be onshore by this time though, so don't get your hopes up.

Let’s take a closer look on Wednesday. 

Next week (Oct 2 onwards)

More strong fronts through the lower Tasman Sea suggests an extended run of intermittent south swell ahead for much of next week, favouring Northern NSW's south facing beaches. However, there are extended periods of northerly winds also on the cards too. More on this in Wednesday’s update. 

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donkeyKONG Monday, 25 Sep 2017 at 6:16pm

"However - and Sunny Coast surfers are gonna be pretty down about this .........N’ly flow may persist about the Sunny Coast for most of Thursday, rendering all beaches very bumpy. Argh!"........ looking forward to the words "should favour the sunny coast".....long wait though!

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groovie Monday, 25 Sep 2017 at 7:29pm

Gr8 waves here t'day on the L/MidNth/coast. A local point/ beachbreak setup fired all morning with 4ft sets with heaps of waves to be had. The main worry is the sharks with @ least 2 spotted every day for the last week or so! Might have something to do with the drum lines set less than 500m off the takeoff zone.

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thermalben Tuesday, 26 Sep 2017 at 8:51am

Pretty patchy this morning. Drove along the Tweed, a couple of spots picking up 2-3ft sets but a few others - usually reliable under N/NE swells - were only 1-2ft. Not much push in the surf either.

A few waves at D'Bah but hardly worth too much attention, as we have fresh S/SW blowing up the faces of the lefts. Sets are pretty slow too.

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thermalben Tuesday, 26 Sep 2017 at 1:10pm

Model data has been pretty good so far on this S'ly change across SE Qld.

Maroochydore is N/NE 18kts gusting 23kts, but Cape Moreton has just swung S/SE 13kts gusting 20kts (not very strong for that location), Spitfire Channel just swung SE 14kts gusting 17kts.

However, the southerly swung reached Cape Byron at 11pm last night, and the Gold Coast around 7:30am this morning.

So, it took eight hours to travel ~60km along the Tweed Coast (8km/hr), and then almost another six hours to travel ~100km to the southern end of the Sunny Coast (17km/hr). 

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thermalben Tuesday, 26 Sep 2017 at 7:31pm

The S’ly change reached the Sunny Coast around 3pm, wasn’t particularly strong though. Winds are now only light. 

Down here on the Tweed Coast the NE swell is very small now.

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thermalben Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 9:17am

Nice lines from the south at Coffs this morning. No-one out as per usual!

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freeride76 Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 9:21am

thats because Gallows is a rippy, unpleasant close-out in south swell/north winds.

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Blowin Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 11:18am

Surf is blown out shit .

Just caught a 3-4 kg stargazer on a lure in the middle of a long beach. Nothing but sand for kms. It was lurking on the drop off behind the Shorey.

I've never seen one before in the flesh , but I remembered it from fish books. I assumed it was venomous - which it is - and avoided any spines I could see when I threw it back in the water.

Only just read that they're very capable of dispensing an electric shock too !

How the fuck a fish can generate an electric charge sufficient to put you on your arse is beyond me. The finned dynamo. You certainly wouldn't want to step on it.

Probably the ugliest fish I've ever seen.

The things you see around the ocean....

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freeride76 Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 1:25pm

good eating.

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Blowin Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 1:29pm

You've tried ?

If so I'm a bit devastated.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 1:42pm

yep, caught plenty of 'em off bribie.

really nice firm white flesh. very good on the chew.

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Blowin Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 1:49pm

Wish I'd known.

Thought I was bound to contract leprosy just from touching the vile looking thing .

Ever been sparked or spiked by one ?

How bad a shock could a fish generate , really ?

PS Just looked them up - 3 star eating according to B.Hutchins.

Would have got some meat of it too. Spewing.

PPS You ever read " Dead Fishy " by Derek Hansen ?

Fun enough read. Short stories revolving around fish and fishing.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 2:35pm

never been shocked....in fact I'\d never heard of it...but they do according to google...maybe not every species gives the shock?

I've not been spiked, think it's the pectoral spikes that do it.

trying to release an undersized flathead the other day and it flicked just as I got it off the hook, ended up with the poisonous pectoral spines lodged straight in my chest. Felt like steve irwin.

95 cm jew this morning. I've never got one off the rocks past grand final weekend.....maybe this year?

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Blowin Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 3:04pm

Nice work on the Jew .

I didn't know they fucked off seasonally.

When do they come back ?

Those flattie spikes are lethal.

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regano Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 3:55pm

I've pulled a couple of stargazers out of the sand on Seven mile beach at Lennox. On both occasions I was just standing in ankle deep water when I felt what I thought was a pippie with my foot. When I reached down and touched it the fish went deeper into the sand. I pushed my hands deep enough to get under it and lift it out of the water. Incredible to see this fish emerge from the sand. Actually thought it looked like a stonefish, mouth up but with beautiful green and yellow markings. I let them both go. Fishos have told me that they can be hard to land as when hooked they immediately burrow deep into the sand.

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Blowin Wednesday, 27 Sep 2017 at 4:13pm

I was trying to figure out what I was snagged on for a minute there. It must have buried itself like you said.

Crazy looking animal.