Ben Cregan on Dale Egan

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
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de_swellnet.jpegTrue music zealots always chase the antecedents. The inspirations. The bands that inspired the bands they like. And so they work backwards uncovering little known and less recognised artists. The ones who really broke new ground and blazed a path for those who followed.

The same occurs in surfing too. Our history is littered with talented folk who strayed from the constraints of the day and did things their way - Frank Sinatra cliche notwithstanding. They provide the inspiration for those who follow; the ones who turn the act into something more palatable to the masses.

Dale Egan is a surfing antecedent. A child prodigy, artist, surfing punk, urban archaeologist, and also the guy who started friction free surfing. Yeah, finless, although Dale used cut down versions. This makes Derek Hynd a descendent of Dale Egan, something he's never shirked from, in fact Hynd, along with Andrew Kidman, has long championed the pioneering talents of Dale Egan.

And the list of acolytes is growing. Derek Hynd and Andrew Kidman have been joined by Ben Cregan, a 38-year-old filmmaker from Sydney's northern beaches who recently completed a film on the life of Dale Egan.

A Day Late And A Dollar Short is showing on the Tweed Coast this weekend (see details at base) and Swellnet spoke to Ben while he was motoring north to unveil his ode to a surfing inspiration.

Swellnet: How long have you known Dale?
Ben Cregan: I got to know Dale when I was 22- or 23-years-old and studying photography. He lived nearby in an apartment at Mona Vale beach full of interesting art and surf pieces so I approached him to shoot some portraits for my course and we struck up a friendship.

What about 'A Day Late And A Dollar Short', how long have you been working on this film?
About the end of 2007, beginning of 2008 I was recovering from breaking my neck in a surfing accident and we discussed making a short film about Dale and his friction free surfing. This project grew into a bigger story which includes his youth surfing with the legends of the 1970s, the turbulent and artistic lifestyle of his adult years, and also his current situation of survival while maintaining the craft of his friction free surfing.

There's a lot of historical footage, was that Dale's or did it come from elsewhere?
We filmed for a number of years while also dealing with other life challenges. Dale kept digging up classic archival material such as the Super 8 film he and his brother Shane shot during the 1970s of people such as M.P, Neil Purchase senior, Rabbit, PT at Snapper, and Simon Anderson at huge Bells Beach. There is much more too.

I also pulled a third person in with more moving film experience, Marcus, to help me edit and conduct some interviews so we could finish the film five years later.

The name conjures a hard luck story, are you driven by righting historical wrongs?
Dale came up with the title of the film as he feels it reflects his path through life, and perhaps his position could have worked out differently. The audience can take what they like from the film though.

I have put a lot of time and energy into this film as I appreciate the contribution Dale has made through his art and friction free surfing, along with his practice of reclaiming treasure from turning into trash. He was ahead of the pack in a number of ways but maybe didn't capitalise on some opportunities and so they passed.

If in the 1970s/early 80s we had freesurfers - paid professionals who lived outside the contest confines - do you think Dale's fate may have differed?
Dale is a very talented surfer and has always had a progressive approach to surfing so he could have been a professional freesurfer if such a thing existed back in that era.   

Dale Egan's story is, in a way, akin to that of musician Daniel Johnston: an immensely talented outsider who flew beneath the mainstream radar. Think that's a fair comparison?
I like the comparison to Daniel Johnston. While most people haven't heard of him a number of well noted individuals from the surf culture have spent time hanging out with Dale and digging his vibe. 

And where is Dale now and what's he doing?
Dale is still living on the northern beaches of Sydney in an old surfboard factory in a swamp behind the sewage works, but only just, and maybe not for much longer. The city is growing and it's become harder to live there and maintain a lifestyle focused on surfing and art. He still has a massive collection of surf culture memorabillia, art pieces, and other props he sells and hires out. But he got flooded in the recent storms which may be the last straw for Sydney.

Through the film the audience gets an insight into surf, punk, and art culture over a number of decades, and it also touches on enviromental issues such as the disposable society we have created and the effects of urban development. 

Where and when are the screenings of 'A Day Late And A Dollar Short'?
We are putting some film screening on at Lennox Head on Friday the 15th and Brunswick Picture House the 16th with a bonus film Flashback Road cut with Super 8 film of 1970s surf culture. An awesome blues and rock band 'The Desert Sea' are playing live for the soundtrack and then playing on afterwards so it should be a great night.

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talkingturkey Wednesday, 13 Jul 2016 at 6:32pm

Now we're cooking with gas...

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AndyM Wednesday, 13 Jul 2016 at 7:22pm

I remember reading a bio on Dale Egan in Tracks, maybe 25+ years ago.

If I remember right, his opening line to his future-wife was "I've got haemorrhoids".

Now that's my kind of smooth talker.

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stunet Wednesday, 13 Jul 2016 at 7:36pm

Fuck you've got a good memory Andy. I remember the IV but wouldn't have remembered that quote without help. Might try and dig the issue out of the shed tomorrow.

Reckon it was 1990-ish?

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AndyM Wednesday, 13 Jul 2016 at 10:31pm

Mate I used to devour surf mags as a youngster, it's amazing how we can remember things we were passionate about.

I remember a photo of his wife in the article - she was very, very attractive, blond wavy hair and beautiful features.

It just struck me that a line like that could work on a stunner like her - again, if I remember correctly, her reply was "That sounds interesting".

Classic!

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BAK Thursday, 14 Jul 2016 at 6:16pm

Lived opposite Dale in Mona Vale mid to late 80's.
Surfed at the Basin nearly every day with him.
Always admired how he made critical in the pocket surfing looked so casual.
Bruce Channon came down fairly often (sometimes with Bruce Usher I think) and through conversation with them learnt some background about Dale.
I remember a particular series of surf sessions over a week or two where Dale had salvaged a beat up thruster from council clean-up. Each time he surfed he had shortened the fins to the point where there wasn't any at all.
By that stage he was doing 360's in the pocket at will....sometimes 3, 4 or more on a single ride.
Shortly before I moved to Newport, Derek Hynde was surfing with Dale at the Basin fairly often on a sailboard minus the sail.
I have seen at least one photo of that in a book by Andrew? (Bay of Sin?)
The first time I saw a "Fish" ridden was by Derek from Sharkies down through the Path and onto Crosswaves then all the way into the cove.
My kindest regards to all of them...deepest respect.

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freeride76 Friday, 15 Jul 2016 at 7:46am

PLaying tonight at the Lennox Community Centre.
looks well worth a watch

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theween Friday, 15 Jul 2016 at 10:24am

Can someone explain the connection between the photo of the Oke surfboard on the Home page and this article? (Oke being a Vicco label, board looks Tomoish and all).

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compact wing Wednesday, 20 Jul 2016 at 10:26am

Still a bit of controversy over this one but yeah, my original design concept- the whole "cropped" thing.
The photo was taken by Sean Davey on King Island in 2007. I had the Oke boys put it together to my specs and picked it up on the way through. All under the Compact Wing label, the first diamond ended model was called the HEX. My present design, the Crop Circle, dispenses with the diamonds, with all four sides (2 sides & 2 ends) perfect arcs. Tomo actually jumped on the bandwagon- but several years later. I've been dedicated to the concept for close on 10 years now and haven't looked back.
Dale's brother.

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stunet Friday, 15 Jul 2016 at 10:25am

Probably shaped by Shane Egan, Dale's brother.

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50young Friday, 15 Jul 2016 at 10:54am

definitely a Shane Egan shape, think he calls them a crop circle

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chickenlips Friday, 15 Jul 2016 at 3:37pm

Yep some dudes make it look oh so Easy! With Style and Grace! There usually getting all the waves! In the right spot at the right time! It's a gift! Where can I buy that?

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BAK Monday, 18 Jul 2016 at 5:55pm

Hi All,
Not to put Dale on a p

Hi Chickenlips,
Taking turns was usually the go.
Don't remember Dale or the other regulars snaking.
Only time I felt a bit hard done by was a session with Nat Young.
Having said that, arrogance is almost acceptable from a former world champ I guess.
But you used to get that around areas of the Peninsular.....

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BAK Monday, 18 Jul 2016 at 5:57pm

Apologies for the typos.

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AndyM Monday, 18 Jul 2016 at 7:50pm

Stu, how'd you go finding that old issue of Tracks?

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stunet Monday, 18 Jul 2016 at 8:34pm

No good. Checked every issue '89-'93 which is when I thought it was published. In so doing I discovered yet another thing that shits me - incomplete table of contents. The Dale Egan wasn't quite a feature - was only one page from memory - and it wasn't a regular column, but at the time Tracks only listed features and regulars in the ToC. So if you wanted to find anything between the two you'd have to flick through every fucken page, of every fucken issue, of every fucken year....

I have a feeling the IV was part of a series 'Surfers in History' that appeared somewhere in the years listed above. I came across stories on Jose Angel, Greg Noll, Felipe Pomar, and I have a feeling DE's interview belongs amongst them.

Problem is, about ten years ago I gave away a few old mags from my collection, before I really considered them a 'collection', and I now have a feeling I may have given away the issue containing the Dale Egan Interview.

I gave them away in the spirit of generosity but now I'm mildly pissed off at myself.

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AndyM Monday, 18 Jul 2016 at 8:58pm

Bummer, that's a shame.
Tracks was pretty shambolic back then, part of the charm! Unless you want to actually find something...

Yeah the interview was one page, that was the style for those "Surfers In History" pieces.
Who was the author of those pieces, same guy? If so can you contact the author direct?

It's sad when you think of those old mags that represent "a time and a place and a moment in space" but who can hump around hundreds of kilos of them forever?

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udo Monday, 18 Jul 2016 at 9:05pm

This is a job for James Llewelyn

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AndyM Monday, 18 Jul 2016 at 9:44pm

Yeah you could be right udo, he'd be able to carry a few issues.

http://www.jamesllewellin.net

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chook Tuesday, 19 Jul 2016 at 2:01pm

dale (and leanne) used to have a store just behind taylor square in the 80s. he sold what i think is called mid centry modern furniture. aka...stuff he found on council tip days and did up. some nice stuff.
there was a bunch of his mates from north narrabeen warriewood that had moved to darlinghurst in the 80s. his shop was the local hang. as i recall, his mates didn't all agree on dale's memories as recounted in the tracks article.