Another beached whale, another beach burial

Stu Nettle
Swellnet Dispatch

This article has been updated

Exactly three weeks ago a whale washed up on Nobby’s Beach at Port Macquarie and foiled removal efforts by authorities to drag it back out to sea. While towing it seaward the carcass broke apart so the local council consulted the National Parks and Wildlife Service (NPWS) who decided the best solution was to bury the whale.

Two days later the whale was buried in a five metre hole on Nobby’s Beach.

Meanwhile, on Sunday, a 5.2 metre baby Humpback whale beached itself at South Ballina Beach with the carcass buried yesterday. Again the decision was made by the NPWS.

According to locals the whale was buried 150 metres from the shoreline yet local surfers have expressed concern. This is a community that’s grappled with increased shark activity (read: attacks) over the last five years. They have reason to be wary.

Beach burial is a favoured means of disposal for cetaceans that wash ashore. It’s the quickest and cheapest method as it allows organisms in the sand to slowly devour the corpse without smell or unsightly mess.

However, it’s a contentious method as the decaying remains mix with groundwater leachate and flows toward the ocean acting as slow release berley for sharks - at least that's the anecdotal explanation. However, organisations such as the NPWS choose this method because there’s no scientific proof that sharks are attracted to dead whales.

The Port Macquarie whale being buried on Nobby's Beach

After the Port Macquarie whale was buried I called the local council, the NPWS, and the NSW Office of Environment and Heritage to find out the protocol for removing dead whales. After many hours of listening to two chord muzak I finally got through to a media person at the Office of Environment and Heritage and asked a series of questions about whale removal. This was their reply in full:

“Landowners or managers are responsible for the disposal of marine animals that wash up or die on their beaches. Towing was attempted at Port Macquarie in a coordinated effort with council and marine services but abandoned when sea conditions became dangerous and the carcass started to disintegrate.”

Four questions answered in two sentences, and if you think it’s vague you’re not alone. Yet it’s all I could get on the matter.

Meanwhile, up in Port Macquarie local surfers forced the council’s hand. They called a meeting and made presentations that expressed their concern that a whale buried on the beach would present a serious danger to surfers and swimmers. Port Macquarie-Hastings council complied and exhumed the whale.

It's just been reported that Ballina Shire Council will also dig up the whale remains and move it.

After the meeting, Port Macquarie-Hastings Council spokesman Matt Rogers made a poignant and cleverly crafted statement to the ABC: "There's no admission mistakes have been made, the council simply responded to a perception in the community.”

In other words, the Council admitted no error in burying the whale. And to be precise they made no error. That's because there’s no scientific proof that sharks are attracted to buried whales. Importantly, it’s not that scientific evidence disproves the theory, rather that no scientific evidence exists. The theory has never been tested.

So surfers might perceive that dead whales attract sharks, yet till it’s scientifically proven that buried whales attract sharks then digging a hole will remain an option however reckless it sounds to you or I.

Fortunately surfers may not have to wait much longer for some kind of resolution. James Tucker is a PhD student at Southern Cross University and he’s one year into a three year study determining whether buried whales attract sharks.

"This study is a world first,” said Tucker “We do know that sharks commonly scavenge whale carcasses that are floating out to sea, but whether that applies to buried whales we just don't know.”

“We are trying to work out what's coming out of the carcass ...what chemical and biological reaction from microbes are happening underneath that carcass in that 'plume' and therefore what's coming out into the ocean as an end product.”

Despite two incidents in three weeks, the beaching of whales is still considered rare, yet from now on each such incident is guaranteed to attract attention from local surfers. If they can band together such as Port Macquarie and now Ballina surfers did they can be their own agents of change, but everyone else will have to wait till 2019 when James Tucker delivers his findings.

Postscript: Swellnet has been gently reminded that a nine-metre Humpback whale was also buried at Kilcunda in late September. That makes it three whale beachings and burials in three weeks. Rare?

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donweather commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 12:28pm

“We do know that whales commonly scavenge whale carcasses that are floating out to sea, but whether that applies to buried whales we just don't know.”

I think you mean "sharks" in the 5th word.

So we now have to scientifically prove something before someone acts? How about posing this question........if they remove the whale carcass from the beach instead of burying it, will that attract sharks? Pretty certain with no scientific evidence to back me up here the answer is a categorical fucking NO!!!!

It it was a dead dog on the road would we just be able to bury it on the footpath?

Council has an obligation to ensure our beaches are clean and safe. If it was an oil spill would they just bury the oil contaminated sediments 3-5m below the sand? Oil is a naturally occuring substance....comes out of the ground remember.....so why can't we just bury it?

Why can't it just be cut up and disposed of at the closest refuse or contaminated land fill site?

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Mort commented Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 12:23am

This is a play, a digger lifts the skull of the whale.

Yorick, I knew him well, Bloody Hell,

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Mort commented Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 12:25am

Shit, sometimes, I make sense.

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Mort commented Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 12:30am

I have copyright on this version of Hamlet, Back off.

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atticus commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 1:02pm

Good luck to the legal firms advising those councils. With no science and no precedent they're rolling the dice of probability. At least they're erring on the side of caution now.

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abc-od commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 1:05pm

James Tucker, expert in waiting on a hot button issue. Anyone like to guess how many media enquiries he's going to field before 2019?

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stunet commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 1:10pm

Now that two whales have been removed I wonder how this will influence future beachings? Because despite what the Port councillor said, removal is an implicit acknowledgement that burial is dangerous. If something were to happen down the track, the fact a council didn't act the same as Port Mac and Ballina will be held against them.

Could be we see all removed before 2019 findings.

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Legrope commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 1:19pm

I'm no scientist but I can say that there is a strong correlation between buried whales and shark attacks.
In W.A. we have had many fatal shark attacks close to where whales have been buried or decomposed on beaches. Cottesloe Beach is number 1 with a couple of fatalities and and attacks. A whale was buried at North Cott in 1998 and is still there. Wedge island had one fatality at the exact spot where the remains of the carcass washed up which was never dealt with. There have been a few in the south west also near where whales have washed up.
I don't know the finer details but that should be enough to go on with.
No PHD required. Just knowledge of the coast will tell ya. Ask a surfer.
Maps showing dead whale washups and shark attack fatalaties should be looked at closely to tell the complete picture. Simple really. Has this not been done already?

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stunet commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 1:24pm

The answer it surprisingly seems is no.

Plenty of anecdotal evidence about cause and effect. From our last article:

"Associate Professor Ian Goodwin has witnessed the result of burying whales and thinks it's a reckless practice. In 1992 he was in Tasmania when a group of pilot whales beached themselves and were subsequently buried. "The groundwater discharge attracted so many sharks the local fishermen wouldn't go out, said Prof. Goodwin, adding that whale burials breach a council's duty of care."

"There will be a shark attack and the victim will scramble to sue council."

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lostdoggy commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 1:55pm

Any update on whale at Kilcunda, Stu?

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stunet commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:09pm

Buried under sand, LD. There's not much in the news and I don't know any surfers from that area so don't know how much pressure they put on the local council. Any local surfers wanna chime in?

Maybe giz an update on the banks at Powlett too, eh?

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lostdoggy commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:19pm

Well, it's coming up to the season where that stretch is the go to.
Hope Vicco surfers haven't got complacent after a good run over the last few decades.
Hopefully having seals as an alternate source down there means sharks with heightened senses just go them, whereas Nth NSW they might get frustrated and go a human.

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goofyfoot commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:37pm

Stu,
Can't help you with the first bit, but the answer to your second question is the banks are freakin terrible, it's a mile long closeout...

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Dave Drinkwater commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 1:59pm

With all the recent attacks, encounters, Port Macquarie debacle and hyper anxiety in relation to sharks on the North Coast. The sensible way to deal with the issue would be to remove it off the beach until scientific facts have been presented. If the evidence proves that sharks do get attracted to dead whales buried then the NPWS is contributing to the problem we are trying to mitigate. Reckless and rookie behaviour.

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Salmondog commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:12pm

Common practice when beach fishing for sharks is to bury all your burley in the sand and let the groundwater slowly disperse the smell, works a treat....

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soggydog commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:14pm

So far no one has mentioned the human activity that caused the whale to wash up on the beach. Only concern for the disruption of human activity as result of a whale dying because it towed a fish trap from Tasmania up and down the coast until it died.
Surfers and recreationist have petitioned the council to remove it for the safety of beach goers, and I suspect from whom that it would have financial implications for a few tourist/recreation related businesses.
Has anyone petitioned their local member of federal or state parliament regarding the stripping back of marine parks and exclusion zones.............yep, que the sound of crickets.
This is only me, but I think the whale should have been left high and dry as reminder to all who saw it of our responsibility to protect our oceans, that our current course of resource management is unsustainable, and while some feel inconvenienced because they're scared of sharks imagine how inconvenienced the whale felt because of humans.

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stunet commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:15pm

Nice sentiments Soggydog, but what about the other whales, the ones that die of natural causes?

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soggydog commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:51pm

I'm not sure Stu. I live in the Great Southern of WA, and when we've rocked up to beaches and there has been a dead whale on the beach we've assessed the risk and made our decision. If the surf was good we usually surfed. Most beaches are reasonably remote/uncrowded I would suspect in comparison to the East Coast. A lot of the surf spots would only be frequented by surfers and the odd fisherman. We don't have numerous surf schools and other ocean recreation based businesses that would be effected by shark hysteria. So the sentiment that a dead whale is an inconvenience to my recreation, safety or more so my business is pretty foreign to me. It is just a dead whale on the beach.
What does concern me is what I stated above. The conversation solely revolved around how the dead whale effected human activity instead of "shit, we've got a dead whale because it got caught in a net/trap/sharknet/ghost net, hit by a ship etc, and the Turnbull government, whilst distracting the public with a same sex marriage plebiscite has just eroded the protections for marine parks" So get the dozers ready gents, I would expect more dead whales.
Or we could form Whale Squad and race around the country disposing of dead whales so beach goers feel "safe".

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stunet commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:58pm

Yeah TBH, that aspect of the original story - the stuck in the fish trap bit - really got me, yet it was quickly overlooked in favour of other angles. Namely human safety. Guess I'm as much to blame as anyone there.

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freeride76 commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:23pm

Not sure what your point is SoggyDog.

Marine Parks have massively increased in most Australian states in the last 20 years and humpback populations have also been on a steep upward trajectory.
Latest science indicates the population may be near the theoretical carrying capacity.

So, although some man made activities may be impacting on individual whales the population as a whole is looking very healthy.

Do you dispute that?

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soggydog commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 3:15pm

The Federal government has just released a draft plan for 44 marine parks almost halving the protections set 5 years ago. Opening them up to long line fishing, trawling and resource exploration if it goes ahead.

I'm no expert on whale populations but please allow me to re-jig one of your own sentences.
So, although some Whale activities may be impacting individual humans the population as a whole is looking pretty healthy.

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freeride76 commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 3:22pm

A draft plan for oceanic marine parks that hasn't been implemented yet.

Meanwhile we have the facts of vastly increased inshore marine parks (where humpbacks migrate) and the fact of vastly increased humpback populations.
Go look at the gazetting dates of Cape Byron Marine Park, Solitary Islands marine Park, Port Stephens, Batemans etc etc. Then compare the protected areas now to 20 years ago.

Sorry mate, I can't see your point.

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soggydog commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 3:50pm

I guess my point was that the cause of death was overlooked. Only the perceived inconvenience to the local human population was discussed..
The main argument presented was that a dead whale presented an as yet, anecdotal argument that it would increase the risk of shark attacks to beachgoers.
My point in rearranging your sentence was to indicate that the same logic could be presented to the other side of the argument. The human population is on an upward trajectory, looking pretty healthy. So who gives a fuck if a few people get chomped.

Take it easy.

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freeride76 commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 4:34pm

As long as you are happy applying that logic to your own family and friends then good luck to you.

Personally, I'd rather the whale was removed if that lessened the chances of (another) of my friends or family getting attacked.

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 4:38pm

The whale should be nailed to a cross and paraded through the streets. We can all hang our heads in shame and emote loudly and publicly.

Then we can all continue happily eating our feedlot cattle burgers and our battery hen nuggets , knowing that our care has been bestowed upon the correct animal.

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soggydog commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 5:59pm

sorry guy's as you where....................

You mean to say they JUST buried it on the beach, what kind of idiot would do that, don't they think about the children!! The Sharks are gonna take our jobs!

Thanks for setting me straight

nice swipe scrapper, I'm vegan

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 7:17pm

Good on you for the vegan deal. That's a great thing for the environment.

Think it's a bit weird that you'd not give a fuck about a human getting killed by a shark to feed itself but do care about a whale getting killed by a human as they feed themselves.

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soggydog commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 7:46pm

I don't think people should get eaten by a shark. I think there was another conversation that could have been had. And now we're having it.

I genuinely hope you guy's feel safer now the whale s are gone.

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 8:21pm

And as unlikely as it is , I genuinely hope that you never lose someone you love through an incident that potentially might have been avoided except for the mismanagement of a government department.

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freeride76 commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 9:50pm

the guy lives in southern WA and is a vegan?

not so good for the environment.....most of his food has to be trucked in.

Much more sustainable to eat some local fish and abalone and stay away from soybeans.

Veganism is a trendy lifestyle indulgence for the rich white people of industrialised nations and is of dubious benefit to the environment.

Try it yourself ....try and be self sufficient. Eat eggs and fish and it's quite easy to do it from local sources.
Now try and be self sufficient as a vegan......

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sharkman commented Thursday, 12 Oct 2017 at 7:49am

FFS FR76, sog was just trying to make a point that look at the cause of the death of the whale , which was caused by man , and maybe we could lessen the number of whale carcass's washing up on beaches , which might save lives of swimmer/surfers.
Your comment about veganism is just bullshit ," rich white people ", ever heard of people with cancer having to go to Vegan diet for health reasons and just so you know , soybeans don't really cut it either .
Ignorance is sometimes bliss , until you use it as a basis for an opinion.
I would think with all the antidotes here about whales on beaches , and sharks that there might be more of an outcry , that there is 1 guy doing a bit of research into if whales berley does attract sharks , as quite a few surfers have been bitten or died around whale beach burials , all the hysteria about culling , but not much energy looking for the causes....what does that tell you?

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Boogie_luv commented Thursday, 12 Oct 2017 at 8:59am

I wish you’d make an informed statement FR76:

Regarding your statement ‘Veganism... is of dubious benefit to the environment.’

The following study clearly suggests that a vegetarian diet has a lower impact on the environment compared to a nonvegetarian diet.

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1699S.short

I totally respect your knowledge and opinions on surf and surf culture. However, your opinions/statements on dietary patterns, health and the environment should be guided by scientific evidence or not made at all.

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TuamotuTerrorist commented Thursday, 12 Oct 2017 at 11:16pm

Before you belittle someone for their opinions you might want to engage in a little introspection. Your study is only relevant to California and the abstract clearly says that the main energy difference is from the consumption of beef. With your cognitive superiority I'm sure you'd realise there's a vast difference in energy inputs between the typically grass fed beef in Aussie versus lotfed US beef. But hey, continue cherry picking irrelevant studies if it fits your narrative.

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Boogie_luv commented Friday, 13 Oct 2017 at 6:10am

TT you’ve made some good points but the study still holds relevance to the ONLY part of FR76’s statement I had issue with (please refer to my first comment). So are you disputing that a vegetarian dietary pattern (which includes veganism) doesn’t have a lower impact on the environment?

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seal commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 6:00pm

So I hope you are going to be in the same frame of mind if one of your friends or family is attacked ??
As Freeride says, the whales are reaching critical population numbers, so there is going to be a lot more natural deaths of whales in the future with a proper removal protocol in populated regions needing to be established.

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soggydog commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 6:19pm

So you do need Whale Squad...............

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seal commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 7:17pm

Could be an opening for someone there!

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Lanky Dean commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 5:27pm

Whales

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Lanky Dean commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 5:24pm

My Brother is an avid game fisherman, he is located in port Stevens. He says that marine parks are knee jerk and extremely dangerous.He sees no benefit to isolating recreational fishing . It's encouraging the shark problem. Sharks have always been associated with whales . No need for scientists to even bother with the study. I am sure it's been studied somewhere else in the world.
There is a beach over where I live called Pacifica . a large number of whales washed up on the beach over March April 2015. Said whales were buried. Only a month later 20 Great Whites were spotted in the area. The one shark started haunting local longboarders in the line up.
Whale beach burial= Sketchy.

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Glen Folkard - ... commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 12:23pm

Thanks Dean from a survivor of the glorious great whites. After my 'accident' I was trying to surf with 6 other guys at Redhead and a truck size whale came into the line up (closeouts). I stayed right away of course but it did not seem threatening. Quite the opposite. Maybe it was being hunted (as I was) and saw other sea creatures (us passive surfers) and played the odds as nature does.

My theory is this warty whale sought shelter among other passive creatures that's us sorry greenies. Or as Vic Hislop says "the gentler creatures of the ocean" so she waits it out with us on the outer bank at Redhead, some surfers paddling closer, the beach being a close option still. The chasing GWS' counts the silhouettes and moves on maybe.

All surfers should be REAL conservationists also. It comes with the territory. Period. REAL but. Common Sense lies in the middle NOT Left or Right. Reject Feudalism which these clowns promote. The currency holders that divide us for fun.

http://tapnewswire.com/2017/10/rothschilds-crime-syndicate-black-hearted...

On a side note, shark attack could appear to be a shark Rapture. This won't make much sense now, but look up Deuteronomy 20:16 and the theology of our masters. Also believe nothing but still read it the same. Thinking is difficult so most judge, please don't. Test the paradigm or narrative as its mostly fake I have found out. Fatally fake.

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Lanky Dean commented Saturday, 14 Oct 2017 at 9:53am

Read head in notoriously sharky. That's why they have the old shark tower there. Stay safe, surf smart .

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Glen Folkard - ... commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 5:27am

Actually its not sharky there have only been 2 shark attacks there one in 1932' and mine in 2012' both in the same spot by GWS. So both our shark attacks were UNDER that shark tower that was constructed in 1928'. I remember guards being in it back in the 70's before the greens were conjured.

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Distracted commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 2:34pm

Looks like the baby whale at Ballina has only been buried 'temporarily'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-11/whale-carcass-disposals-on-nsw-nor...

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kaiser commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 3:05pm

What about cutting it up, freezing the usable amount, and letting the contractors use it as bait on the drum lines? We know for sure that sharks like to eat whales...

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seal commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 5:47pm

The whale burial was only temporary because they couldn't get away with it !
Good on the Ballina crew for making enough noise and getting some local Pollies on board to remove it.

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udo commented Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 at 6:07pm

Exhumed and dumped.

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dandob commented Thursday, 12 Oct 2017 at 2:12pm

Stu, you also forgot to count the two whales in the Clarence valley that washed up last month. One at angourie and one near brooms head. One at brooms is still exposed on the beach rotting away.

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chook commented Thursday, 12 Oct 2017 at 9:42am

yep, while you lot are are having conniptions about the whale a port macquarie, people were surfing in full view of the dead whale at angourie.

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stunet commented Thursday, 12 Oct 2017 at 12:20pm

Latest tweet from Surf Lifesaving WA should raise eyebrows for Margs surfers:

"Public report unknown sp. shark sighted 08:05hrs 12/10, Gnarabup Boat Ramp, Prevelly , whale being attacked by shark inside surf break."

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Groper commented Thursday, 12 Oct 2017 at 1:54pm

In the Clarence Valley there has been native title determinations over the coastline. Management of a dead whale on the beach would require consultation with the traditional owners and I assume would only represent a range of positive opportunities.

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tubeshooter commented Thursday, 12 Oct 2017 at 8:15pm

Whales tend to snap trap ropes fairly easily. And it's a rare case they can't break the line or shake it off with some acrobatics..unlike 'shark nets'. they generally shake/snap the gear off eventually. As whale numbers increase more get hit by commercial shipping traffic as well. Shark numbers are increasing alongside that, as well as greater numbers dying of natural causes or disease., There will be more.
As to how to deal with the carcass , stick it on the auction floor at Sydney Fish Market. There won't be much left of it after the final bell.

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Glen Folkard - ... commented Saturday, 14 Oct 2017 at 7:20am

Ahh another world first study of the bleeding obvious. Cha Ching.. neoconservative nepotism time.

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gcuts commented Saturday, 14 Oct 2017 at 6:21pm

" ... James Tucker is a PhD student at Southern Cross University and he’s one year into a three year study determining whether buried whales attract sharks. "This study is a world first,” said Tucker “We do know that sharks commonly scavenge whale carcasses that are floating out to sea, but whether that applies to buried whales we just don't know.”

“We are trying to work out what's coming out of the carcass ...what chemical and biological reaction from microbes are happening underneath that carcass in that 'plume' and therefore what's coming out into the ocean as an end product.” ... "

Here's a tip mr PhD, try a FOI request for documents and data from a 1982 'report' regarding beach whales and shark activity. The 'then' Port Macquarie / Hastings council, was the "Municipality of Hastings" which covered the coastal stretch south to the Camden Haven river and was involved, as were local fishermen and other bods from the State Fisheries, in tracking sharks activity near beached whales.

Remember folks, 1980's LONG before social media so a beached whale made it to the local paper, so plenty of public record of what and where ...

As for the 'report' ... FOI, start digging. The TRUTH is already recorded.

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Blowin commented Saturday, 14 Oct 2017 at 6:36pm

Mate , if anyone's willing to believe that they need 3 years of empirical evidence before they'd accept that a dead whale carcass will attract sharks then I've got a bridge for sale.

It's called obfuscation.

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Glen Folkard - ... commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 12:26pm

Some Sunday links and reading here for yous. One of my Australian heros is Wendy Scurr another is Sir Victor Coppleson. That's my art dedicated to this great man. A real man. Wendy is everyone's mother and is very brave. Legend.

https://www.change.org/p/the-hon-will-hodgman-mp-martin-bryant-deserves-...

https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Victor-Coppleson/6000000000631638898

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/07/03/26/port-arthur-massacre-martin-b...

https://www.naturalnews.com/index.html#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCZvYXwBlkk

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udo commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 9:27am

Had a speed read of the loveforlife link/s
Cmon now Glenn .

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Glen Folkard - ... commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 12:25pm

Slow down and take some time reading it, our lives and private property may depend on it! Then read The Protocols of Zion, The Communist Manifesto.. and anything from Henry Makow and Henry Ford then get back to me Gentile. Also there is these awesome books the category being Revisionist History:

- The Falsification of History - John Hamer
- Titanics Last Secret - John Hamer
- Ancient Knowledge - George Curtis (excellent)
- Atomic Bomb Secrets - David Dionisi
- Shark Attack - Victor Coppleson
- My Inventions - Nikola Tesla

- I also have Pdf's of Jon Grays archaeological books to share.

http://wyattmuseum.com/discovering/noahs-ark#

http://www.tomatobubble.com/

Yes its all off topic so I will delete these comments in a few days to avoid a clusterf*ck.

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eat-your-vegies commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 2:41pm

Glen, tneres a tread in swellnet called 7 books you should read and get psyched on
Or somthing , might be a better home for that post.

Cool reading material though, cheers.

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Glen Folkard - ... commented Monday, 16 Oct 2017 at 5:58am

Thanks mate i'll try and find it as I have a lot more.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 2:51pm

Better not rock the boat, try and keep everyone happy.
East Coast councils will still roll-out the shark nets to catch the whales.
Japs service the nets...Pretty whales re enter Whale highway for the selfie harpoon flotila.
Japs tag 'n'bag the dead mangy giant highway kill for dinner.

This halves the cost of shark net service.
Keeps nets for surfers.
Ends Pacific Whale hunting.
Rids us of the Beach Bulldozers.
Keeps the tip smelling nice.
Sooky Nippers get their beach back.

IWC may hopefully let ride that perverted Captain Ahab necrophiliac bestiality role play .

Plan B...Whale to sea,luring sharks from coastline. Weigh it down as dive reef for tours.

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Sprout commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 4:35pm
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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 8:26pm

They seem to be getting washed up all over the place.

Was also a small one washed up at Kilcunda a week or two ago.

Ada gula, ada semut!

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mundies commented Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 11:10pm

Holy whale carcass batman. Its easy to be dismissive when its at someone else's beach, but if it landed on mine and there was a teabag burial I'd be shirty.
What to do? Lobby & change national parks policy to reflect both surfers opinion and hopefully a science based approach which, with proper and diligent research, reflects anecdotal evidence of teabag buried whales = more hungry sharks...

mundies

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Glen Folkard - ... commented Monday, 16 Oct 2017 at 3:23pm

And October is THE month to get halved by a GWS historically so stay whale aware. If I recall correctly the Rio Earth Summit in June 1992' placed animals above Humans. Then in OCTOBER 1992' just months later, Michael Docherty was Raptured brutally while surfing alone. His friends saw it. So Michael was #1 it seems. Opened their account.

http://sharkattackfile.net/spreadsheets/pdf_directory/1992.10.01-Dochert...

RIP Michael while self important surfing was lauding and stroking itself for decades they completely missed you and all the dead surfers following. Between 2000 - 2016 I count 38 dead by GWS and hundreds wounded or missing. Hundreds. BUSLOADS without ONE shark FISHED. Duh. Another here that WON'T make the shark attack 'file'.

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/news/geelong/body-believed-to-be-fem...

We all have a 'solution' for old fatass whale but who gives a toss for the slaughtered Humans? No one that's who. As the world is overpopulated yes? Right..

https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-13-top-2o-fear-millennials-decline-s...

Royal Commission time and lets have Peter Singer Sing first shall we?

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goofyfoot commented Monday, 16 Oct 2017 at 8:01am

So Glen what is it exactly that you want to happen to the GWS?
The underlying tone of your posts really turns me off reading anything you've got to say.
Just come out and say it

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Glen Folkard - ... commented Monday, 16 Oct 2017 at 4:35pm

Im an artist and not a shark expert for one I can't help you there. Sorry you don't like it but their people's kids. Their parents silenced by PC and fake sciemce no one speaks for the dead.
Who cares what you think? DEAD kids hellloooo?????

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goofyfoot commented Monday, 16 Oct 2017 at 7:44pm

Still won't say what you want to happen to the gws.
You're not a shark expert but it hasn't stopped you saying plenty so far.
Fake science?!

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thatguy commented Monday, 16 Oct 2017 at 8:02pm

Glenn, please don't speculate on the Pt Roadknight discovery / Anglesea incident. Some of us are closely tied to what happened. Bit of respect wouldn't go astray.