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Laurie McGinness (blindboy)
Swellnet Dispatch

screen_shot_2015-01-27_at_11.57.52_am.pngOn a surf trip to the south-west, blindboy reads the lay of the land and finds the swell rich region is a place unlike any other.

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There are only a few stretches of coast blessed with the conditions that produce consistent high quality waves: the North Shore of Oahu, the Bukit in Bali, the Gold Coast in Queensland, and here at the southern end of Western Australia between the Capes, Naturaliste in the north and Leeuwin in the south. There are other places, probably a significant number, but these are the first we think of, these are the ones that are most intimately tied to the history and development of surfing.  

The south-west is distinctly different to the others. Here there is no warm water nor tropical climate. There are no palm trees nor gentle trade winds. The coastal geography alone, even on calm sunny days, tells its weather-beaten, storm blown story. The wind-blasted heath struggles to little more than a metre high for wide stretches and straggles inland with barely a hint of a cline, so that the only places the vegetation achieves any height at all, within sight of the coast, are those where the land itself drops away into a hollow, providing some shelter.  

The beaches, in turn, drop precipitately from their dunes where the milder swells of summer have failed to restore what the storms of winter have eroded. Below the high tide mark, their edges are more often fringed by flat limestone reefs than smooth sand. Even the reefs themselves tell a story as they stretch in irregular patterns out into the occasionally translucent blue of the Indian Ocean. They speak of progression, and the possibility of surfing anything from one foot to what..? No-one knows. The limits are still being tested and who can say what will happen on some miraculous day on a rarely ridden outer reef in the future, distant or not-so-distant.  

All this comes at a glance. Stand at Surfers Point and scan the view from the Rivermouth to The Box and on to Mainbreak, Southside and the outer Bommie. It is all there. From beginners, to fun, to serious, to more serious, to......the unknown. The deep water around the breaks hints at the possible size and when finally, a wave is ridden, the power reveals itself. The swell is raw and unrefined. It sweeps along the coast in long lines but these are not the refracted lines of the Gold Coast, or even the Bukit. If Hawaii was a thousand miles further north, it might feel like this except that the North Shore is a populated and tamed landscape while the south west is still sparsely populated with large areas of wilderness.

The south-west differs in another way also. Surfing is not its main business. The Gold Coast, the Bukit and the North Shore are unimaginable without surfing. In the south-west it is secondary to the wine business. Surfers come here, backpackers and weekenders from Perth, but the tourist market is aimed at the wine drinkers. South of Yallingup low-growing vines, bright green in the everyday sunshine, straggle along the road and follow the inland turn-offs for kilometres. Along Caves Road the vineyards pass like labels in the aisle of an boutique bottle shop, most with their own restaurants or resorts. All firmly upmarket.

Yet they sit uneasily on something much older, something much more resilient. The native vegetation needed no irrigation and even the grazing land that initially replaced it was more enduring than these delicate vines, draped in cloth to preserve their fruit and drip-fed for optimum development. The wild flowers that bloom so spectacularly each spring and make the region a biodiversity hotspot, need no such care. Nor do the remaining paddocks.

And with the vines has come the gentrification that sits just as uneasily on what has gone before, both indigenous and later. The recent wealth, dug up as iron ore far from here, forms a thin veneer of privilege. The luxurious beach houses and the abundance of new cars seem no more firmly rooted than the vines that have brought them here. It is as if they are merely waiting for a change in the wind, a change in fortune that some might claim has already begun with the appearance of "Reduced" on so many For Sale signs and a long term decline in iron ore prices.

If Australia was once, in a time long gone, the land of the long weekend, the south-west is in some ways the land without weekdays. It is always the weekend for some percentage of the fly in - fly out workers. So whenever the swell is clean and the wind has some east in it, the surf is crowded. There are a lot of spots but on any given day it's likely that only a relatively small sub-set will be delivering quality waves. Even those waves located at the end of long difficult 4-wheel drive tracks are not immune as SUV ownership seems to be compulsory.  

To the waves then: the water is cool even in mid-summer, and the waves pack a punch. There are long paddles and dodgy entry and exit points at many spots. It is fickle, the wind moves and swells subtly shift direction, so it is more like a hunt than a smorgasbord. And then there are the sharks. A simple calculation makes it clear the risk is tiny. A visitor is much more likely to have an accident on one of those tree-lined roads than to be attacked, but it takes a steady nerve to forget the statistics when sitting far offshore in deep dark water. For all these reasons then, the south-west will never replace those boat trips to the various tropical archipelagos where the skipper delivers waves to the exact specifications of the group. So, more than any of the other areas mentioned at the start, it remains an area firmly dominated by those who live there. It doesn't seem like a bad thing. //blindboy

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ljkarma Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 1:06pm

you gotta get out more often Blindboy...and continue giving us a good travelog read like this. A great perspective of a great place.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 1:07pm

Seconded. Great read.

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Clivus Multrum Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 1:28pm

The caption to this article should be "On a surf trip to the South-West, Blindboy drives down Caves Rd and into Walkley territory".

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Blowin Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 1:58pm

Nice one BB. Sounds like you got a feel for the joint. Well written.

PS - You're going to shit your pants if you ever make it up North.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 2:03pm

Exactly. He won't be paying thirty bucks for a bit of marinated sheeps cheese served on a bed of julienned virgin beetroot.

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chickenlips Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 2:13pm

Don't forget to check the plaques depicting shark attacks at nearly every break! Legs up!!

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top-to-bottom-bells Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 2:36pm

It's an incredible stretch of coast, no doubt about it. I remember when I first went there and stayed in town at some apartments, there was a tourist brochure on the kitchen bench and it had a map showing where all the surf spots where. Like, WTF??
Down south my way you can't even pull out a camera, yet over there they print up maps for you.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 3:09pm

Hey BB, did you visit the Gracetown-Ellensbrook stretch?

I heard there was hardly anyone surfing it because of the shark attacks.

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mickj Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 3:53pm

I surfed back of the Bay on Sunday and there was probably 70 guys in the water from Lefties to little Ulus at peak crowd, plus a few more at Ellensbrook I'd say (although the SSE wind woulda kept the crowd down at that end of the beach I'm guessing).

That stretch as crowded as ever in my experience, people start cracking slightly uneasy jokes if the chopper hovers overhead too long but nobody is avoiding it.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 3:58pm

thanks Mickj.

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Gui Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 6:46pm

Nah, it's always busy, that area .. at least it was in the last few weekends.

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fraser-gordon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 3:10pm

What? was this written in the mid 80's.

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cycd Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:13pm

Gracetown to Ellensbrook is packed freeride76 ..... yesterday is a perfect example of this let me tell ya

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Blowin Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 9:09pm

Loving your avatar cobber.

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cycd Saturday, 31 Jan 2015 at 4:00pm

Cheers ..... can't wait for a few more months up north this year!

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Blowin Saturday, 31 Jan 2015 at 4:04pm

Fuck yeah. Get a few last year (2014)?

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Shatner'sBassoon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:19pm

"If Australia was once, in a time long gone, the land of the long weekend, the south-west is in some ways the land without weekdays. It is always the weekend for some percentage of the fly in - fly out workers. So whenever the swell is clean and the wind has some east in it, the surf is crowded. There are a lot of spots but on any given day it's likely that only a relatively small sub-set will be delivering quality waves. Even those waves located at the end of long difficult 4-wheel drive tracks are not immune as SUV ownership seems to be compulsory."

Yep. Chuck in size don't matter either...waves &/or boards. 40 - 50 dudes out at 12'+ Boaties. 8'+ mainbreak bring your 8' + board!

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blindboy Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:25pm

I thought about throwing that in but it would have been a bit presumptuous since I didn't see any real size while I was there. I imagine that like anywhere that gets consistently big, people just build their skills so that at 12' there are still plenty with the experience to justify their presence in the line up.

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Shatner'sBassoon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:55pm

ha ha or not! Have big board, have a crack! Check out mainbreak next time it's 8'! Can't beat 'em etc etc

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blindboy Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 6:11pm

Well I admit to having a 7'5" in the bag but it was never at risk of getting wet!

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quokka Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:35pm

"it remains an area firmly dominated by those who live there..." they're mainly blowins from the last building or mining boom. The place is not a shadow of what it used to be unfortunately. In saying that it's still the most prolific wave bearing stretch of coast in the west so gotta suck it up. I'd advise against going there in school holidays it's an absolute joke crowd wise!

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Shatner'sBassoon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:46pm

and likely to stay! Check out the housing developments from Vasse to Witchcliffe and all points in-between! Fuck, it'll be like the goldie!!?

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Blowin Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 6:18pm

Blindboy was there during the school holidays. Got to remember gents, that to a fella from The Northern beaches of Sydney , it's still an untrammelled frontier. Well maybe not that extreme , but definitely less intense than that which he's used to.

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blindboy Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 6:44pm

Absolutely Blowin' I had three sessions of quality waves with a crowd level that simply does not happen here anymore and a few lesser quality ones with almost no-one. For me that was a very significant difference. It is always crowded here, there it thinned out very quickly when the conditions went a bit funky.

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Rabbits68 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 6:48pm

Yep, way too crowded all of the time, really fickle inconsistent waves, bloody dangerous, big sharks, need I go on.........

Probably best just to leave your boards at home, bring your better halves and just come & enjoy the pristine scenery, beautiful wines & tasty foods :-) :-) :-)

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Blowin Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 6:51pm

WA is twenty years behind the East coast, which is twenty years behind California.
It's like time travel.
Shhhhhh......don't tell anyone.

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quokka Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 7:07pm

Fuck me if that's the case I'd hate to live on the East Coast or Cali for that matter. I haven't surfed the East Coast for a few years but it wasn't much worse than here when I was there, apart from Snapper etc. I'm remembering down south 20 years ago so I spose it's a fair point everwhere was way less crowded then. In saying that it's still too crowded. The noahs don't seem to be having an effect anymore, there were two big buggers (or the same one) sighted at Lefties and Umbies when I was down there and a few days later I was surfing very crowded South Point, just part of life now. BB out of interest where did you surf?

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blindboy Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 7:16pm

3Bs, Yallingup, Injidup Point, quokka.

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quokka Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 7:18pm

Inji Pt I can see being uncrowded but Yals and Bears...you were damn lucky to get them without a crowd, nice one.

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wellymon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 7:22pm

Great read again BB.
Obviously the wine was paramount after a few paragraphs..! , what was you favourite...?
What did you think of Perth?, could you live there?
oh yeah did you get your share of waves?
Just a couple of good WA questions for the geezer of many a travels wide and far ;)

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blindboy Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 7:35pm

welly I bought a few nice bottles to take home but drank very little wine while I was there. I usually prefer a beer and have no expertise at judging wine. I had a day in Perth city and did the art gallery which I thought was seriously good....a beautiful Clifford Possum probably the highlight but a really solid Australian collection. You can almost smell the money though, all the new roads, new cars and lots of clapboard castles covering the hills around the river. If I didn't surf I could live there but as it is, no chance. I did pretty well wave wise though the Saturday morning crowd did me over. Local knowledge and a few decades advantage made for a difficult environment but even then I got a few and was pretty happy.

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wellymon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 7:55pm

Nice work BB.
A geezer with taste, especially the "Clifford Possum" Geez I love the Aboriginal art, got a lovely piece from Nhulunbuy (Gove) a few years ago. There is something very striking about their art, Psychedelic in my eyes.
I hate Perth personally BB and like you say you can smell the money, but its ruined and over glorified with such young ones in a sense.
A holiday is so important each year, glad you had a great time and good waves.

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zenagain Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 8:24pm

Leeuwin Estate Art Series Chardonnay. Gives Petaluma or Tyrells Vat 47 a good run for its money.

Lovely with a feed of fresh seafood.

And of course a cleansing ale to finish.

Jeez, I almost feel like taking up drinking again. Cool article BB.

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wellymon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 7:55pm

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bobhawke Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 8:06pm

keep it dark you lot...

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mikehunt207 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 8:22pm

Nice one bb, getting a commission from Tourism WA maybe? Less crowds in Byron Bay when i went there for my first ever hoilday up the east coast last year, less wankers too (and thats not saying Byron wasnt full of wankers), how about the wind , strong offshore turns to strong onshore,blows for weeks as it was when you were here , everything is expensive, fly in fly out blow ins surfing all day when their not flown out to work, a pie costs $6 bucks, a pint of beer $10(no rsl clubs here) surfboards start around 800.Get a big contest taking over said point at Margs for 4 weeks in peak surf season and slated for more now the super venue has been built,weather forecasting (thanks Ben) allows carloads of pros to arrive just in time to sidle in for the best days of surf of the year, rent a shitbox house in town for $500pw min or a room over $200, "local"brazillians facebooking what were once secret beach breaks, "local queenslanders not much better talking how great their session at the bombie was today(when it was 4ft) but still saying how everything is better on "the sunny hoax" A carpark full of guys with boards that would make you think The Eddie was about to run everytime it,s 6ft. Not to say it doesn,t have it,s moments and wasnt an awesome place 20+yrs ago and beyond that but like the Bukit in Bali well and truely another paradise lost story. Overexposed

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Shatner'sBassoon Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 12:22pm

Ha ha nailed it in all departments!

"Sunny Hoax"! Bloody Queenslanders! Hilarious!

"A carpark full of guys with boards that would make you think The Eddie was about to run everytime it's 6ft. "

GOLD!

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Blowin Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 9:06pm

Fellas - It's 2015. You know your stories about 20 years ago ? Well people thought it was crowded then most of the time at the name spots.

Australia and the world are due to double in population in the next 30 years and the whole concept of globalisation means that those German and Brazilian Margies " locals" are just the tip of the iceberg. So enjoy what you've got ,while you've got it.
Cause shit ain't getting better any time soon.

Sun's out , swells come and go, still fish in the ocean. Live large while you're able bodied enough to do so.

PS. It could well be me crying about the crowds next time. In fact it's a given. So humour me whilst I put on the brave face of acceptance of a future riddled with crowds and regulations that will be the end of this surfing life as we know it.

Surfing is dead.
Long live Surfing.

PPS .... Give it 5 years gents. When the shit hits the fan economically , 50 percent of the boom time population will drop WA like a hot pie. They'll miss their mates and family over East, the green grass of Ireland, the warm pints of England and the social scene ofSouth Africa ....well maybe not the social scene of South Africa.
Without the dollars to tie them to WA they'll drift in the wind. It's a transient state like the NT. Boom and bust boys. Might not get less crowded, but it'll plateau at least. Which still leaves you better off than 90percent of the planet.

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Rabbits68 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 9:38pm

Nice Blowin. Second all that. Cheers :-)

Sure beats living in a war torn country......

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wellymon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 10:21pm

Only a few gents here Blowin and its not me , mostly surferfuks;)

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Shatner'sBassoon Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 2:48pm

Interesting...and contentious. There's blow-ins and then there's blow-ins. Always the way in this part of the world.

Having said that, the amount of development going on concerns me in all matter of ways, and not just surf-related. The big housing developers are going nutsoid again. From Vasse to Witchy. Satterley friggin' dog-boxes and all the other buildings that come with 'em in Margs?! & everywhere else?!

The previous 'vibe' of the town, of the whole coast is disappearing...barely hanging in there. I don't think it's inevitable and simply worthy of a shrug of the shoulders.

And there's still community members fighting the good fight....and at least asking hard questions of their shires, LGOs etc.

Even if the Satterleys of this world blow it and bust out, it ain't good...I think. Bunch of cheap houses and land ripe for some other corporate picking...maybe even, I dunno, Chinese?

Putting the selfish surf lid back on, how big will this crowd plateau be either way? I'm thinking Himalayan proportions rather than the Great Dividing Range.

Sick.

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ljkarma Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 9:21pm

wow Blowin, hard to argue with those heartfelt musings. The future will always be, to many, a poor cousin of the past. I too choose to be classified as one of the " many".

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batfink Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 9:34pm

" the North Shore of Oahu, the Bukit in Bali, the Gold Coast in Queensland, and here at the southern end of Western Australia between the Capes, Naturaliste in the north and Leeuwin in the south"

The Gold Coast!????????????

WTF. Gold Coast doesn't belong in that group.

SW is so raw, swells coming in from 1000's of kms, open ocean for half the planet to your east and south.

It's an unbelievable part of the world, although I can't talk about the crowds. Haven't been there in 18 or so years. That's how old my first born is. :-)

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Blowin Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 9:44pm

Fuck yeah the Gold Coast. Drive up the East coast in a SE wind then check Snapper. It's like a gift. Warm, blue water with rippable walls hugging a user friendly sand bank. And don't get me started on Burleigh....

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wellymon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 10:19pm

Sickaz.

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Sickaz Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 9:56pm

Some of the best waves here are hardly ever crowded yes they may be out in deep water and the big fish will be there but if you want sick, big uncrowded waves then shut up and go and surf them I dare you

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brainiac Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 11:27pm

I spent 18 months down there back in the late nineties. Farkkin rad coast, i had some of the most wave blessed periods of my life. It was a good community and i met many great people.
I believe the crowds had just begun to get bad around then. Still,i had so many classic sessions where the the waves challenged you every surf. I returned 10 years later for a holiday and was disillusioned with the joint. So crowded, so developed ,aggro,and looking like the place was in the process of having its fabric changed. Some locals felt the same.The waves were great and i am sure there are great uncrowded sessions to be had, but in hindsight i wish i could have been there 20 years earlier!!!!
For grunt, rawness and power this coast is the best! ( Disclosure, i am yet to really spend time in SA, but the SA yocals seem to scare me a bit more)
To summarize the SW does not have the length and perfection of some east coast breaks , but has it all over the east with consistency of swell, sheer power, variety and and big round bazzas. A great place to go especially with such a beautiful environment and so many touristy things to do, to keep the non surfing partners happy.
Nice story BB, i still yearn to return despite my crowd views

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Boon Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 12:56am

I think often we like to get a stiffy over something that's written well, Blowin your a good yarn teller and hey when you have to submit content of course you'll talk it up...

What about Nth coast NSW, Sth coast NSW....

SA...

Pt Fairy East in Vic?

Tassi??

The longest waves down south WA are about 100 yards long and fat as fuck or somewhere like Northy's that breaks a few times a year with 60 crew on it maybe is 150 yards long...

Places like Angourie, Snapper, Winki, Berleigh... They can handle a heap of guys and besides you only need a couple and your stoked...

SW WA requires a shit load of effort...

Margies, Yals etc have already sold out...

The joint is over rated and over crowded....

With something like 1500 primary school kids in the Margs area alone she's only about to get worse in the water down there....

Anyway yeah this story was about Vines, good place to hit the piss......

You've also forgotten to mention the Kiwi's.... Blah blah

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Rabbits68 Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 12:26pm

Effort equals reward in my experience......

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a360 Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 1:50pm

best thing for Vineland is to plough the vineyards back into the ground, eyesore's that suck more water from the ground than the dirty coal mine that was proposed a few years back.

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hem-stret Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 2:42pm

boon. SA has been blown apart, same deal it sems as WA. ive got crew sa west coast i used to visit every year, its a fucken joke. cant blame people for wanting clean air and waves though. too many crew, simple as that.

Id like to hear more about southern nsw too. they are quite happy blowin everyone elses spots wide open but surf media wont touch em. why is that? tassie not much better. wedge boneyards and shippies arent easy to score or find but you will never surf it good with less than 20 in close proximity. long period swell means very few to go around.

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kellyslater Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 2:46pm

When the wa gov super town initiate goes ahead in the next few years, the population of margaret river will triple to 30000. So if you think the crowds are bad now wait till it happens. It may not be worth going there anymore. Also they are selling land as fast as they can and clearing large chunks of coastal vegetation overlooking the ocean for the 1 % to build their McMansions on. The mining boom has fucked this state

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Blowin Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 3:06pm

Amen. The mining boom certainly brought about change. More coin obviously, but you didn't really need it before.

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quokka Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 12:14am

You are smack on KS. Joe average has been priced out of the market. You know a place is fucked when the free camp sites start being closed and caravan parks are flattened for multi-million $$ resorts. The wineries are what attracted a lot of the yuppie scum down there so I agree, bulldoze the lot of them and return it all to nature.

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Rabbits68 Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 3:18pm

Sheepdog, Tassie sounds like the go, sorry mate, here we come :-)

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southey Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 6:08pm

Don't kid yourself Rabs .
When people come from WA they almost pass out for the cold water / air the moment they step foot in Vicco ... ( i didn't surf for 3 months when i did ) Well magnify that , then you have Tassie .

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Rabbits68 Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 6:50pm

Yeah I found Vicco cold-ish, so Tassie will be another level no doubt :-)

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seaslug Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 6:47pm

Hey Quokka, is that you "smoky VW combi quokka from Cott?"

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mikehunt207 Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 8:34pm

The mining boom certainly created the "haves and the have nots" in Margs. Primary school with 1500 kids some whos parents earn hundreds of thousands in the mines and homeswest housed single parents with fuck all. Changed the country town vibe thats for sure.

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hem-stret Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 9:06pm

Cold was a factor for the southern states maybe a decade ago. Modern wetsuit technology has leveled that playing field. Places Aussies should be opening up and surfing more should be the Cocos, Christmas islands, Lord Howe and Norfolk etc. Still the trail runs coldest around that protected species of southern NSW.

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Rabbits68 Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 9:13pm

Yeah Southern NSW, now that's a pristine piece of coastline, or at least it was back in '99 when I travelled thru. I remember lots of empty beachies & some epic waves.

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blindboy Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 9:15pm

True, but tricky and unreliable.

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Coops70 Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 10:06pm

I'm from west oz but have lived east for some time, lived in margs early nineties, I go back and see family drive down south and turn back again . Progress they say, at least I had it good when I lived there, now .... Fuck they can have it. Such a shame to see it all built out. It's lost it's vibe in my opinion now anyway. I heard most I knew have moved further south good luck to em

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mikehunt207 Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 10:37pm

sounds like west and south australians should start hitting the south coast nsw maybe. bring a bunch of photographers too? give a bit back to morgs, burcher , bierke. and co. Could stimulate some new economy for the tourist industry there. Cheap beer, land, good tubes,empty lineups, heaps waves, shit! sign me up

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wellymon Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 10:52pm

Great vineyards and waves in...........
OOOOpppppps ;)

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wellymon Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 10:55pm

Tuscany ,Mosel, Burgundy, Otago.....!

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southey Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 11:00pm

UNZED hey welly ...
Nah , S NSW needs a comp ..... that'll put them on the MAP .
Maybe they can Rotate Bells and Margies with SANDON or Redsands .
Or just fuck the contest scene over to Indo ... Now theres a place that needs infrastructure . While we are at it perhaps Tim B can start naming spots in NSW on the WSL website , or just shoot/ base himself primarily there.... that would be fun .

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wellymon Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 11:05pm

Remember that comp @ heaps of fingers way back- 12-15ft when Tom Curren nearly drowned against the rocks...?

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saltman Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 8:25pm
wellymon wrote:

Remember that comp @ heaps of fingers way back- 12-15ft when Tom Curren nearly drowned against the rocks...?

Sure do - a few of the B Bong challenge pros didnt want a piece of it ....according to Marsupial who was the wave guide for the circus
Reckoned young Dorian was the one with balls

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wellymon Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 9:57am

"Reckoned young Dorian was the one with balls"

His gonads kept on growing too.
They were all under gunned that day.

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cycd Saturday, 31 Jan 2015 at 4:12pm

I was down in that part of NSW for that swell..... surfed the epic rock/beachy with em the next day and slightly smaller but way more perfect waves further south than heaps of fingers on the large day .... haven't seen that rock/beachy as good before or since

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mikehunt207 Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 11:19pm

good call southy, i forgot to mention t bonythong and his teamate matt markthews, those guys are great tourism ambassadors for places they dont have to live in

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hem-stret Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 9:04am

Mikehunt, southey -hear hear! A comp and a heap of video footage. Make sure the town nearest the break is in on the tourist promotional push, and get a couple of young starstruck kids to fully endorse the invasion.
Then say the town really needed it. Just follow the trail of spew and graffiti from the maroubra boys if they didnt draw you a map. Yew

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kellyslater Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 10:01am

Wait..what? There's waves in Sth nsw? Tim bonybong definently needs to definently needs to shoot video there then blatantly name and thank the campground in the credits of the video so we won't know where the waves are.

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Blowin Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 10:10am

Pretty sure Gripping Stuff gave it a nudge. Was that Tim Bonython ?

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freeride76 Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 10:10am

I hear what you're saying there fellas, and I have no dog in the fight, being from NNSW but I see shiteloads of clips from Southern NSW.
It's all over the fcuking web.

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sypkan Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 11:45am

All over the web using more inuendo and synonyms than anywhere else

Some mutual respect would go a long way

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Blowin Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 12:38pm

I reckon it's old news too. Gripping Stuff came out in the late 80 's / early 90' s so any damage is already done. Though I reckon exposure has to be regular or else the fickle public forgets and moves on to the next big thing. That's why it's possible to get former child star spots less crowded now than in their hey day.

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Sickaz Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 11:38pm

I'm new to this commenting thing, there are a lot of big penises here, it's is a right sausage fest. I think I'm better off going and stretching my penis for a while, I'll return when I have a real huge penis

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ringmaster Thursday, 29 Jan 2015 at 11:48pm

Geez......what a bunch of (mostly) tired, frustrated whingers with an unbelievable sense of entitlement. So what if FIFO crew are smart enough to set up a good surf/work lifestyle. I'm from Vicco but been lucky enough to visit and surf S/W & N/W W.A quite a few times over the years and never had a dud trip. If you're a competent surfer in good waves you'll nearly always come in stoked over there and maybe a few of you need to look at your own act instead of blaming others. Yeah.....if you get to the end of the Bears track at dawn in mid January and it's packed well what the fuck were you expecting? Plenty of options if ya wanna do a bit of extra driving most days and heaps of windows during the year when it's relatively quiet. EVERYWHERE was a lot less crowded 20 years ago and even more so 30 years. If you're old enough to have been travelling and surfing back then be grateful for it. I sure as fuck am.

First world problems indeed.....

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quokka Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 12:20am

FIFO crew smart...hehehe now that's fuck'n funny RM.

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Sickaz Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 8:37am

Good on ya ringmaster if its crowded and you're out there you are a part of the crowd, so if you want to whinge about it instead of putting in a little effort then well... you're an idiot

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wellymon Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 10:00am

" I'll return when I have a real huge penis"

That was quickaz;)

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Rabbits68 Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 11:53am

Ha! Pretty quick yourself there Welly :-)

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Boon Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 12:43pm

Yep agree... Combine that with the "super" forrest highway and "super" over taking lanes to express the crowds onto our door step makes it tricky nowadays getting a cruise with just a half a dozen heads....

The Margies comps and the dribble the commentators go on and on about streaming to the world also works against us here....

Anyway.....

Its the next gens that I really feel most for....

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mikehunt207 Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 5:08pm

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wellymon Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 6:11pm

"Parp"

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Sickaz Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 9:08pm

Hey thanks for the tip my c#$t, true i am jealous of you big penised heroes but i am not gay, ask your mum, can you tell her to stop messaging me. Hey while we're on the topic.... I'm your dad. Just kidding i'm bobhawkes dad.

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wellymon Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 9:20pm

Sickaz,
Systematise champ
My Mum is dead...!
Your not my dad, he is dead as well.
It's a little rude mate :-(

Pooraz.

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Sickaz Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 9:26pm

Wellymon that post of mine was for mikehunt,aka my c#$t. Your comment are positive its good i'm sorry if i offended you i was trying to offend mike and bob

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wellymon Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 9:44pm

I know Sickaz.
There is no point on here trying to offend some people that are long time contributors :)
Trust me, I myself and you will get shot down, there is a plenty of cool crew right now on here, that frequent and have frequented these forums for many a millennium before us...?
Ohhhh Its not me tho.
Relax take a seat and hold on to your big penis that grew really quickly in 24 hours ;)

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bobhawke Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 5:44pm

If you don't like it you can F.... OFF!

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Shatner'sBassoon Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 3:24pm

just another Manic Monday...woe-fucken-woe-ho-ho-ho

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quokka Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 1:56am

Just thought I'd check out the source of your photo Shat and OMFG those c#nts have sold their souls producing that shit...the place is definitely doomed with the idiots guide to SW WA floating around out there.

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mikehunt207 Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 12:15pm

i was wondering when that book would rear it,s ugly head. put together by a lady from qld too boot, thankfully she left out the secret spots apparently? according to review i read in local paper.She must know some real secrets and the 10 pages of a certain beach to the south of town have def classified that as a not so secret spot anymore. Hope she got rich at least, fuckwit, no soul to sell but plenty of uncrowded surfs thrown under the bus.

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kellyslater Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 4:17pm

I was wondering who was behind that website and that guide. I can only shake my head at the stupidity and lack of respect. I wouldn't buy it and give that scum any money. Sell someone else's coastline out for 40$ a pop what a joke. Imagine the uproar if it was the wild coastline of sa or Sth coast nsw.