Rasta talks us through his Gary McNeill-shaped quiver, replete with unique design features: torus channels, flax glass, and forward-positioned fins on big wave guns.
Nice clip. He’s noticeably nursing the majority of his turns on the twins though. It’s kinda frustrating watching it, knowing that with another fin or two on there he’d be going mad.
Beautiful surfing in the last section
crgSunday, 28 Jan 2018 at 1:17pm
It does look like that on video GF but living nearby and surfing a few semi secret spots I've had quite a few surfs lately when he's in the water. I can tell you in real life it's not so much the nursing of turns but the speed at which he surfs. It's incredible just how fast he goes and how much ground he covers laterally across a wave in each turn...its mind blowing to see in full flight from the water.
goofyfootSunday, 28 Jan 2018 at 4:54pm
I take it back then!
I’m sure that would be a pleasure to watch mate. A few friends surfed at nias with him and he was riding a little yellow twinny in 8-10ft barrels. They said it was an incredible thing to see live.
I’ll keep my kook opinions to myself from now on hahah
memlasurfMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 1:48pm
That is the beauty of twin fins, speed without having to pump non stop. Can't do the standard vertical top to bottom hacks, so it is a different aesthetic. I tend to be conditioned to seeing the WSL approach of top to bottom which they all do incredibly well so that when you see someone on a twin it is a completely approach (mind you Rasta and Asher could surf a lounge chair and make it look good). I surfed mine on the weekend in clean 2-3 foot beachies and had a ball and the speed always brings a smile to the dial. More akin to gliding and banking than gouging, so if you have never tried it, it is worth a go. They love clean faces and are not great in messy stuff.
Woof woof 41Monday, 29 Jan 2018 at 12:07pm
I lot of that was a day at winki pop vic.
March 2017 it was cooking all day I surfed for 6hrs and watched him get a couple..
Was so sad lol a massive southerly change hit just as 50 crew just knocking of work where running down to try get a piece
Must have been devastating for most half way around the button only for the wind tear 10hrs of utter perfection to bits in seconds.
stunetMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 12:16pm
If nothing else, the Rasta/Gaz combo always gets me thinking about design. Recently Gaz has been shifting the fin cluster forward on some guns, as mentioned in the vid.
I haven't spoken to Gary directly about this but I assume it's to loosen up a board with 8 or 9 feet of rail. If so, it'd appear to make sense as a board with so much rail, and being ridden in the waves it's intended for, will have no shortage of drive so why not shift the fins forward to introduce pivot.
zenagainMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 12:54pm
Planet Caravan, be there a cooler stoner track out there? Love it.
Interesting to hear him mention the fins on the gun brought forward to be more under the back foot. I find that when I'm surfing longer boards my foot placement is naturally further up the board. Makes sense to place the fins under the back foot to restore pivot and drive.
Geez, he's a lovely surfer to watch.
Edit: Restore not necessarily drive, plenty of that in big waves but certainly pivot.
Island BayMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 2:13pm
Gotta have the fins closer to where your back foot is. Brewer has had a more spread out and higher up fin cluster on his big guns for ages, and Bruce McKee has a very specific formula for his quad placement according to board length and width.
Such beautiful surfing. Man, he has speed, doesn't he.
fuhriousMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 2:09pm
On to my second 7:10. I've got one stashed at a mates place somewhere in the Indian Ocean and now one for home. In the middle 60's now and the 7:10 does a few things. Firstly it paddles so well it let's me get in early which with ageing hips its pretty important. Surfed it up there this last year at well overhead and had days of waves and laughs with my mate. Secondly and again a paddle thing I can stay in the water longer which equals more wave catching and surfing. Thirdly with the forward fin cluster it's not like surfing a longer board but to isolate just the fin set up undervalues whats going on. It's a combination of fin position, rail and rocker. Finally the board is an equaliser if it gets busy in the water. People tend to stay out of your way when they see the 7:10 heading their way!!!!!!
Have recently got a 6.10 for home which with autumn and winter approaching should be a lot of fun indeed.
Haven't surfed a three finned board for over 10 years now just the twins and the longer quads. The twins are what kept me surfing and for that I'm very thankful. Like Memla said give it a go!!
goofyfootMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 4:23pm
Who shapes your longer boards fuhrious?
billieMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 3:00pm
Hey woof woof, was that March 30/31st?
Woof woof 41Monday, 29 Jan 2018 at 7:03pm
Pretty sure around that time.. The next morning was soild soild bells unbelievably straight swell and clean 8ft with 10ft sets.
I missed the early celebrating the prior day with a few drinks Thinking there is no way it could be that epic and Clean the next morning as it was still 50knts sw and 1am and by dark the night before it was a washing machine.
There was a photo of bells on the front page of swellnet first light this day oh my god it was stacked...
That's The thing about the surfcoast it can just sort it self out so fast.
fuhriousMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 4:50pm
Hey Goofyfoot both the 7:10 and 6:10 are Gary McNeill shapes that's how I've learnt about the fin, rail and rocker dynamic. Probably be good to get a fuller explanation from him about how they got to where they are with the design. What I know is that they don't feel long and don't surf long if that makes sense.
goofyfootMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 5:31pm
Yeah it absolutely makes sense.
I’ll look into it.
Did you just get your normal pu board or something like rasta’s with bamboo or whatever it is that he used?
fuhriousMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 7:54pm
Goofy both boards are PU with some strength in the glass mate but they don't feel too heavy at all. Before I got the 6:10 I was even using the 7:10 on smaller days when I was feeling a bit lazy on the paddle. Get ya back foot over that fin placement and it's happy days indeed.
SpearmanMonday, 29 Jan 2018 at 10:34pm
Been getting Gary’s boards for a few years now and have not looked to any other shaper since started with thrusters, really reliable boards but tried his torus twins and amazed what you can do with them throwing fins around and laying into turns is so much fun on them.
ojackojackoTuesday, 6 Aug 2019 at 5:34pm
anyone ridden the pip featured from about 1:45 in the vid?
ojackojackoWednesday, 7 Aug 2019 at 5:18pm
anyone ridden the pip featured from about 1:45 in the vid?
Comments
Nice clip. He’s noticeably nursing the majority of his turns on the twins though. It’s kinda frustrating watching it, knowing that with another fin or two on there he’d be going mad.
Beautiful surfing in the last section
It does look like that on video GF but living nearby and surfing a few semi secret spots I've had quite a few surfs lately when he's in the water. I can tell you in real life it's not so much the nursing of turns but the speed at which he surfs. It's incredible just how fast he goes and how much ground he covers laterally across a wave in each turn...its mind blowing to see in full flight from the water.
I take it back then!
I’m sure that would be a pleasure to watch mate. A few friends surfed at nias with him and he was riding a little yellow twinny in 8-10ft barrels. They said it was an incredible thing to see live.
I’ll keep my kook opinions to myself from now on hahah
That is the beauty of twin fins, speed without having to pump non stop. Can't do the standard vertical top to bottom hacks, so it is a different aesthetic. I tend to be conditioned to seeing the WSL approach of top to bottom which they all do incredibly well so that when you see someone on a twin it is a completely approach (mind you Rasta and Asher could surf a lounge chair and make it look good). I surfed mine on the weekend in clean 2-3 foot beachies and had a ball and the speed always brings a smile to the dial. More akin to gliding and banking than gouging, so if you have never tried it, it is worth a go. They love clean faces and are not great in messy stuff.
I lot of that was a day at winki pop vic.
March 2017 it was cooking all day I surfed for 6hrs and watched him get a couple..
Was so sad lol a massive southerly change hit just as 50 crew just knocking of work where running down to try get a piece
Must have been devastating for most half way around the button only for the wind tear 10hrs of utter perfection to bits in seconds.
If nothing else, the Rasta/Gaz combo always gets me thinking about design. Recently Gaz has been shifting the fin cluster forward on some guns, as mentioned in the vid.
I haven't spoken to Gary directly about this but I assume it's to loosen up a board with 8 or 9 feet of rail. If so, it'd appear to make sense as a board with so much rail, and being ridden in the waves it's intended for, will have no shortage of drive so why not shift the fins forward to introduce pivot.
Planet Caravan, be there a cooler stoner track out there? Love it.
Interesting to hear him mention the fins on the gun brought forward to be more under the back foot. I find that when I'm surfing longer boards my foot placement is naturally further up the board. Makes sense to place the fins under the back foot to restore pivot and drive.
Geez, he's a lovely surfer to watch.
Edit: Restore not necessarily drive, plenty of that in big waves but certainly pivot.
Gotta have the fins closer to where your back foot is. Brewer has had a more spread out and higher up fin cluster on his big guns for ages, and Bruce McKee has a very specific formula for his quad placement according to board length and width.
Such beautiful surfing. Man, he has speed, doesn't he.
On to my second 7:10. I've got one stashed at a mates place somewhere in the Indian Ocean and now one for home. In the middle 60's now and the 7:10 does a few things. Firstly it paddles so well it let's me get in early which with ageing hips its pretty important. Surfed it up there this last year at well overhead and had days of waves and laughs with my mate. Secondly and again a paddle thing I can stay in the water longer which equals more wave catching and surfing. Thirdly with the forward fin cluster it's not like surfing a longer board but to isolate just the fin set up undervalues whats going on. It's a combination of fin position, rail and rocker. Finally the board is an equaliser if it gets busy in the water. People tend to stay out of your way when they see the 7:10 heading their way!!!!!!
Have recently got a 6.10 for home which with autumn and winter approaching should be a lot of fun indeed.
Haven't surfed a three finned board for over 10 years now just the twins and the longer quads. The twins are what kept me surfing and for that I'm very thankful. Like Memla said give it a go!!
Who shapes your longer boards fuhrious?
Hey woof woof, was that March 30/31st?
Pretty sure around that time.. The next morning was soild soild bells unbelievably straight swell and clean 8ft with 10ft sets.
I missed the early celebrating the prior day with a few drinks Thinking there is no way it could be that epic and Clean the next morning as it was still 50knts sw and 1am and by dark the night before it was a washing machine.
There was a photo of bells on the front page of swellnet first light this day oh my god it was stacked...
That's The thing about the surfcoast it can just sort it self out so fast.
Hey Goofyfoot both the 7:10 and 6:10 are Gary McNeill shapes that's how I've learnt about the fin, rail and rocker dynamic. Probably be good to get a fuller explanation from him about how they got to where they are with the design. What I know is that they don't feel long and don't surf long if that makes sense.
Yeah it absolutely makes sense.
I’ll look into it.
Did you just get your normal pu board or something like rasta’s with bamboo or whatever it is that he used?
Goofy both boards are PU with some strength in the glass mate but they don't feel too heavy at all. Before I got the 6:10 I was even using the 7:10 on smaller days when I was feeling a bit lazy on the paddle. Get ya back foot over that fin placement and it's happy days indeed.
Been getting Gary’s boards for a few years now and have not looked to any other shaper since started with thrusters, really reliable boards but tried his torus twins and amazed what you can do with them throwing fins around and laying into turns is so much fun on them.
anyone ridden the pip featured from about 1:45 in the vid?
anyone ridden the pip featured from about 1:45 in the vid?