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floyd started the topic in Tuesday, 5 Jan 2016 at 3:08pm
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floyd commented Tuesday, 5 Jan 2016 at 3:08pm

Its only 3.56 long, please watch it.

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Craig commented Tuesday, 5 Jan 2016 at 3:18pm

And why the rest of the states out of SA haven't outlawed the use of plastic bags or containter refunds is beyond me.

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Rabbits68 commented Tuesday, 5 Jan 2016 at 3:20pm

That's pretty heavy. Thanks for posting.

I read somewhere the other day, that within less than 30yrs, 99% of seabirds will have ingested plastic. 99%!!! I'll try & dig up the source....

Crystal Clear

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GuySmiley commented Saturday, 25 Feb 2017 at 12:52pm

ABC TV this Monday night- 4 corners-Oceans of Plastic

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mk1 commented Saturday, 25 Feb 2017 at 2:10pm

Read on a bbc article this week that micro plastics being ingested in the aquatic food chain don't so much come from large plastic waste breaking down in the environment but particles leaching into marine environment. Principally road tire wear, synthetic clothing breaking down in washing machines and microbeads in cosmetics.

Considering that moving to all natural fabrics and avoiding plastic microbeads in toiletries are readily accessible alternatives, there is the chance for us all to make a big difference on this right away.

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GuySmiley commented Saturday, 25 Feb 2017 at 4:27pm

mk1 - washing machine manufacturers in Europe are starting to pre-install filters on new machines to gather all the micro plastics from all those synthetic clothes we like to wear. All those polo fleece garments are the worse culprits.

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mk1 commented Saturday, 25 Feb 2017 at 5:01pm

Thank God for the Euros

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talkingturkey commented Sunday, 26 Feb 2017 at 3:32am

Where's Tony Barbie? Life in plastic, it's fantastic!!

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GuySmiley commented Monday, 27 Feb 2017 at 2:57pm

Just a reminder to watch ABC TV 4 corners tonight - Oceans of Plastic.

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Distracted commented Monday, 27 Feb 2017 at 4:42pm

Rabbits, I think all young shearwaters on the pristine Lord Howe already contain plastic in their guts. This might be the link you were referring to.
http://blankgc.com.au/plastic-fills-tummies-of-natures-flying-legends/
There will have to be some massive crashes in seabird populations to come as it is impossible to see a decrease in plastic pollution occurring any time soon.
As Craig said, why governments can't be more proactive is frustrating, and what happened to the bottle recycling program that was meant to start in NSW?

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GuySmiley commented Monday, 27 Feb 2017 at 7:59pm

Governments can do more but especially us surfers have an opportunity to carry rubbish off a beach when we see it.

Personally, picking up rubbish after a surf when walking back to my car is my way of making sense of it all. If I rationalise it too much it just gets me depressed so I don't. I just pick up the rubbish and bin it at home.

Perhaps you might think about giving it a go sometime.

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Distracted commented Monday, 27 Feb 2017 at 8:20pm

Good reminder

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Gaz1799 commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 9:55am

Do they have bottle recycling in other states? In SA we have yellow wheelie bins for bottles & cans or we can save them up and get 10 cents a can back if we do it ourselves.
Heaps of people do it though, and there's recycling depots around the place that seem to make a living out of it too.
The plastic bag initiative in SA was actually pretty good, we pay 15 cents per bag now and they're a lot tougher than those crappy thin ones. You can use them ten times if you like, but if you're like me you always forget to bring your own bags so end up paying an extra 60 cents every shopping trip for new bags.

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stunet commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 11:24am

Here's the 4 Corners episode:

Oceans Of Plastic

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mk1 commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 11:24am

I don't mind using a few shopping bags, I'll reuse them as bin bags later and load them up so I only need 1 or 2. They should carry the full life cycle price of their impact though.

The ones that bug me are the thin fruit and veg bags, you see people with 1 bag for a carrot, 1 for an onion, 1 for bananas. They aren't really reusable later either. Just put the veg in your trolley and bag it all together at the end dumb arses.

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GuySmiley commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 11:39am

Gaz1799, In Vicco, we have council operated recycling bins like you have but no buy back scheme. I think the Greens have tried to get it introduced but its always opposed by the big drink manufacturers and hence it goes nowhere. We used to have it here when I was a kid, not sure why it stopped.

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trippergreenfeet commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 1:24pm

Every action has a cost ... in the case of SA putting a cost on shopping bags also has increased the purchase of bin liners.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-26/bag-ban-brings-unintended-consequences/4595190

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Gaz1799 commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 2:20pm

It's pretty lucrative Smiley, the cricket/footy/netball clubs regularly do bottle drives etc each year for the under 16's etc it's a shame it's not nationwide.

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mk1 commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 3:31pm

TPG, it's a pity there isn't a life cycle tax on all disposable plastic, that was used to clean it up. That way it wouldn't matter what sold more than anything else as the funds to help deal with the issue would still be collected

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GuySmiley commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 3:33pm

Yeah I know Gas, I see a guy clearing the bins of aluminium cans from local netball courts. I say all power to him, making a few dollars and doing the world a service. Supporting last night's 4 corners one local ocean beach seems to be a real magnet for rubbish, a lot seems to come from foreign ships that either use or sail by the two major nearby harbours. Lots and lots of plastic containers with Asian language on them. That and bait bags, don't understand that, fishers tossing their rubbish.

Hope a few of you watched 4 corners, really sad what's happening.

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surfstarved commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 7:20pm

We went to Lord Howe last year and they have exactly the same problem over there. Perhaps not on the same scale (yet), but those little shards of plastic are everywhere now; every ocean, every sea, every river. It's horrific.

Don't let the bastards grind you down

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Sheepdog commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 7:27pm

Surfstarved.... You should see west coast tassie.... Horrific..... Down here too around Robe to Beachport..... It's a freakn disgrace..

Sheepdog

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zenagain commented Tuesday, 28 Feb 2017 at 7:47pm

This is 'effing heartbreaking.

You should see the piles of plastic floating around here. You could cut the apathy with a knife.

Ignorance is Zen

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Distracted commented Thursday, 2 Mar 2017 at 11:21am

Good news, the NSW container deposit scheme will commence later this year.
http://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/waste/container-deposit-scheme.htm
Hopefully that can reduce some input into the coastal waterways.

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velocityjohnno commented Sunday, 16 Apr 2017 at 8:45pm

That is absolutely tragic. Look up 'The Ocean Cleanup' - a real way to deal with the plastic in our oceans.

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GuySmiley commented Tuesday, 25 Apr 2017 at 5:17pm

Hey Check this out, some of you might be interested in this.

A way of getting rid of all those microfibres in your washing that get washed into the ocean ....

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/879498424/cora-ball-microfiber-catc...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTQwcInBxIb/?taken-by=honey_surf