the first part of your post goes without saying andymac
but the second part slips into wishy washy subjective land...
12 weeks custody for this?
"A 51-year-old man in Egremont, UK named Lee Joseph Dunn has been thrown in jail for 12 weeks over 3 MEMES. Memes that show images of migrant gangs with a caption saying "Coming to a town near you". This is absolutely insane..."
you think that is 'accordingly'?
the judges justification...
"...Here's what the judge said: “I don’t accept that your comments and the emojis that you posted were directed at the police. I’ve read in the case summary of the comments you made on arrest which clearly demonstrate to me that there was a racial element to the messaging and the posting of these emojis.
“That has to be reflected in the sentence as does there need to be a deterrent element in the sentence that I impose, because this sort of behaviour has to stop.
“It encourages others to behave in a similar way and ultimately it leads to the sorts of problems on the streets that we’ve been seeing in so many places up and down this country. This offence is serious enough for custody.”"
sorry to go all qanon on you...
but personally I'd rather see the pedos locked up
suitable... seriousness... equivalence?
JAILED FOR MEME CRIMES
A 51-year-old man in Egremont, UK named Lee Joseph Dunn has been thrown in jail for 12 weeks over 3 MEMES. Memes that show images of migrant gangs with a caption saying "Coming to a town near you". This is absolutely insane.
certainly not that bad here yet, but one can see the trajectory...
this is why I call it reactionary
we've clearly entered a new paradigm, with lots of things coming to a head...
but those in power, are just desperately putting out spot fires
what they think to be spot fires...
they are not even close to addressing root causes
you cannot turn this around by suppressing dissent
it's impossible
I'm sure some would love to just call me racist...
truth is, I love our multicultural society, but I see it crumbling apart at the seams
here's something for the woke mob to jump on... I actually find it alarming the overt racism I now see on social media. truly ugly and distressing, only the last few years or so, but it's taken a real ugly turn...
censorship ain't gonna fix it
police state most certainly ain't gonna fix it
dialogue is all we have...
andy-mac, 1724135322
[quote=sypkan]the first part of your post goes without saying andymac
but the second part slips into wishy washy subjective land...
12 weeks custody for this?
"A 51-year-old man in Egremont, UK named Lee Joseph Dunn has been thrown in jail for 12 weeks over 3 MEMES. Memes that show images of migrant gangs with a caption saying "Coming to a town near you". This is absolutely insane..."
you think that is 'accordingly'?
the judges justification...
"...Here's what the judge said: “I don’t accept that your comments and the emojis that you posted were directed at the police. I’ve read in the case summary of the comments you made on arrest which clearly demonstrate to me that there was a racial element to the messaging and the posting of these emojis.
“That has to be reflected in the sentence as does there need to be a deterrent element in the sentence that I impose, because this sort of behaviour has to stop.
“It encourages others to behave in a similar way and ultimately it leads to the sorts of problems on the streets that we’ve been seeing in so many places up and down this country. This offence is serious enough for custody.”"
sorry to go all qanon on you...
but personally I'd rather see the pedos locked up
suitable... seriousness... equivalence?
JAILED FOR MEME CRIMES
A 51-year-old man in Egremont, UK named Lee Joseph Dunn has been thrown in jail for 12 weeks over 3 MEMES. Memes that show images of migrant gangs with a caption saying "Coming to a town near you". This is absolutely insane.
Not a matter of either or, both pedophiles, and racists who incite violence can be locked away as far as I'm concerned.... Haven't seen the memes or the context of what was written so can not really say if fair or not. From twitter post so grain of salt and probably only half story. But I could be wrong.
Free speech 100% for. Racial hate speech, nup.
[quote=andy-mac][quote=sypkan]the first part of your post goes without saying andymac
but the second part slips into wishy washy subjective land...
12 weeks custody for this?
"A 51-year-old man in Egremont, UK named Lee Joseph Dunn has been thrown in jail for 12 weeks over 3 MEMES. Memes that show images of migrant gangs with a caption saying "Coming to a town near you". This is absolutely insane..."
you think that is 'accordingly'?
the judges justification...
"...Here's what the judge said: “I don’t accept that your comments and the emojis that you posted were directed at the police. I’ve read in the case summary of the comments you made on arrest which clearly demonstrate to me that there was a racial element to the messaging and the posting of these emojis.
“That has to be reflected in the sentence as does there need to be a deterrent element in the sentence that I impose, because this sort of behaviour has to stop.
“It encourages others to behave in a similar way and ultimately it leads to the sorts of problems on the streets that we’ve been seeing in so many places up and down this country. This offence is serious enough for custody.”"
sorry to go all qanon on you...
but personally I'd rather see the pedos locked up
suitable... seriousness... equivalence?
JAILED FOR MEME CRIMES
A 51-year-old man in Egremont, UK named Lee Joseph Dunn has been thrown in jail for 12 weeks over 3 MEMES. Memes that show images of migrant gangs with a caption saying "Coming to a town near you". This is absolutely insane.
Not a matter of either or, both pedophiles, and racists who incite violence can be locked away as far as I'm concerned.... Haven't seen the memes or the context of what was written so can not really say if fair or not. From twitter post so grain of salt and probably only half story. But I could be wrong.
Free speech 100% for. Racial hate speech, nup.[/quote]
Unless of course its against Jews right.
indo-dreaming, 1724139056
[quote=basesix]In all sincerity, @sypkan, have you been listening to Coleman Hughes' stuff? Give it a whirl if you haven't, I think you'd find his well-articulated points salient, and his demeanour engaging. ABC radio ran him in relation to the festival of dangerous ideas, and the Australian had an article from him today. Another good example of media not being the worst thing in the world. here. yet. I love this subject, as I see both sides clearly, and the price for a good society is eternal discussion.[/quote]
You have me curious, i do recall him on Joe Rogan and i do recall him being very sensible and on point, i will have to give him a re listen to see what he was all about again.
andy-mac, 1724140505
[quote=indo-dreaming][quote=andy-mac][quote=sypkan]the first part of your post goes without saying andymac
but the second part slips into wishy washy subjective land...
12 weeks custody for this?
"A 51-year-old man in Egremont, UK named Lee Joseph Dunn has been thrown in jail for 12 weeks over 3 MEMES. Memes that show images of migrant gangs with a caption saying "Coming to a town near you". This is absolutely insane..."
you think that is 'accordingly'?
the judges justification...
"...Here's what the judge said: “I don’t accept that your comments and the emojis that you posted were directed at the police. I’ve read in the case summary of the comments you made on arrest which clearly demonstrate to me that there was a racial element to the messaging and the posting of these emojis.
“That has to be reflected in the sentence as does there need to be a deterrent element in the sentence that I impose, because this sort of behaviour has to stop.
“It encourages others to behave in a similar way and ultimately it leads to the sorts of problems on the streets that we’ve been seeing in so many places up and down this country. This offence is serious enough for custody.”"
sorry to go all qanon on you...
but personally I'd rather see the pedos locked up
suitable... seriousness... equivalence?
JAILED FOR MEME CRIMES
A 51-year-old man in Egremont, UK named Lee Joseph Dunn has been thrown in jail for 12 weeks over 3 MEMES. Memes that show images of migrant gangs with a caption saying "Coming to a town near you". This is absolutely insane.
Not a matter of either or, both pedophiles, and racists who incite violence can be locked away as far as I'm concerned.... Haven't seen the memes or the context of what was written so can not really say if fair or not. From twitter post so grain of salt and probably only half story. But I could be wrong.
Free speech 100% for. Racial hate speech, nup.[/quote]
Unless of course its against Jews right.[/quote]
Fuck off Indo...
AndyM, 1724149064
“ From harmless pant-shitting simpleton to obnoxious bellend - The Indo story.”
Coming soon to a cinema near you.
southernraw, 1724152966
More unneccesary inflammatory language by Indo.
And showcasing his strong cognitive miser attributes.
GuySmiley, 1724154494
^^ someone who argues in good faith …. apparently???
southernraw, 1724154939
Adds balance to the arguments apparently. hahahahahahahaha!!
Divisive and inflammatory are the only contributions i see.
seeds, 1724155269
Don’t forget it’s just plain stupid.
Diminishes his own argument.
basesix, 1724156892
I think we can all agree that when people go rogue in a covo, and use terms like antisemitic, hamas simp, rwnj, racist, the best policy is to just take a knee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQOyXlsoS04
(just rub one out like a man, it's the champagne of victory.)
seeds, 1724157243
Classic
andy-mac, 1724184941
[quote=basesix]I think we can all agree that when people go rogue in a covo, and use terms like antisemitic, hamas simp, rwnj, racist, the best policy is to just take a knee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQOyXlsoS04
(just rub one out like a man, it's the champagne of victory.)[/quote]
Classic!
indo-dreaming, 1724190002
It digs deep and gets a big reaction as we see because the truth hurts, anti semitism is a form of racism, It can take many forms some more subtle than others and outside of islamic circles ironically today more a problem coming from the left rather than the far right (who in reality is a small fringe group)
Published not long after Oct 7th
"Antisemitism has moved from the right to the left in the US − and falls back on long-standing stereotypes
The U.S. is currently experiencing one of the most significant waves of antisemitism that it has ever seen. Jewish communities are shaken and traumatized.
Jewish and civil rights organizations both in the U.S. and in other Western countries reported a rise in antisemitic incidents following the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas attack on Israel and the subsequent Israeli military response. The Anti-Defamation League reported that in the first week after Hamas’ deadly attack, in which 1,400 Israelis were killed, antisemitic incidents in the U.S. tripled in comparison to the same week last year.
Similarly, London police recorded a 1,353% increase in antisemitic crimes compared with the same period a year earlier.
In addition, antisemitic symbols and rhetoric seem to be part of a growing number of protests that erupted around the globe following the escalation of the conflict between Israel and Hamas."
Its not a new thing though as this 6 year old article shows..
"The shame of antisemitism on the left has a long, malign history
So, we’re back to the “Jewish Question”? The current antisemitism crisis on the left has not come out of nowhere. Instead, it has its roots in a tradition on the left itself, which, at best, has always had difficulty in responding swiftly to antisemitism and, at worst, excused or condoned, even promoted it. It is not, of course, the only tradition on the left, but unless we understand this history, we won’t get very far in resolving today’s crisis."
Happy with my choices.
Theres no road lower than the one you're on.
Even worms see more light than you.
Carry on chump.
GuySmiley, 1724191611
After what has played out in Gaza recently how could any reasonable person accept that the actions of the IDF and their Zionist government are proportionate to the Hamas attack? I don’t, I’m horrified that they are allowed to get away with this genocide against innocent civilians. I don’t believe the Zionist propaganda and I don’t need no resurchin from @info to tell me otherwise ….
southernraw, 1724191748
Drop the c#*t in Gaza for 24 hours and see if his perspective changes.
andy-mac, 1724193524
[quote=southernraw]Drop the c#*t in Gaza for 24 hours and see if his perspective changes.[/quote]
His ignorance is mind-blowing. Dunning Kruger; admits to never reading books and gets all his info from UTube, so you kind of have to give him a break as he does not have the understanding or cognitive ability to really research anything. He would be laughed out of any first year Uni course.
If you were chatting with him in a pub, you would just say what I said in previous post and walk off. The guy is not worth engaging with.
Moron.
GuySmiley, 1724194070
“ .. The guy is not worth engaging with...”
Yep, been my approach for years now, it’s the only way to fly
stunet, 1724194928
1) Way out of line Indo. Gonna give you a warning for unprompted abuse.
2) If you're "not going to engage with someone" then don't engage. How do you do that? Not by telling the world that you're not engaging.
Pop Down, 1724195158
Hello andy-mac
Some things are not meant 2B "engaged with " , but just endured .
Some of us , can B a real Pain in the Ar.e and bite U on the bum , without reason .
Just like a bloody Mozzie , perhaps .
All we can do , is turn the other cheek , try not 2 get sucked 2 much , ignore the itch , don't scratch and think , there must be a friggen reason , 4 it :) , surely .
goofyfoot, 1724196075
Gotta admit the guy gets a few warnings. When’s the last one?
mikehunt207, 1724196293
[quote=indo-dreaming]It digs deep and gets a big reaction as we see because the truth hurts, anti semitism is a form of racism, It can take many forms some more subtle than others and outside of islamic circles ironically today more a problem coming from the left rather than the far right (who in reality is a small fringe group)
Published not long after Oct 7th
"Antisemitism has moved from the right to the left in the US − and falls back on long-standing stereotypes
The U.S. is currently experiencing one of the most significant waves of antisemitism that it has ever seen. Jewish communities are shaken and traumatized.
Jewish and civil rights organizations both in the U.S. and in other Western countries reported a rise in antisemitic incidents following the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas attack on Israel and the subsequent Israeli military response. The Anti-Defamation League reported that in the first week after Hamas’ deadly attack, in which 1,400 Israelis were killed, antisemitic incidents in the U.S. tripled in comparison to the same week last year.
Similarly, London police recorded a 1,353% increase in antisemitic crimes compared with the same period a year earlier.
In addition, antisemitic symbols and rhetoric seem to be part of a growing number of protests that erupted around the globe following the escalation of the conflict between Israel and Hamas."
Its not a new thing though as this 6 year old article shows..
"The shame of antisemitism on the left has a long, malign history
So, we’re back to the “Jewish Question”? The current antisemitism crisis on the left has not come out of nowhere. Instead, it has its roots in a tradition on the left itself, which, at best, has always had difficulty in responding swiftly to antisemitism and, at worst, excused or condoned, even promoted it. It is not, of course, the only tradition on the left, but unless we understand this history, we won’t get very far in resolving today’s crisis."
Why does anti Israeli aggression always have to be labelled anti semitism? It's not the same thing and constantly using it as a free pass for atrocities is getting pretty old.
GuySmiley, 1724196653
^^ it’s outright offensive
indo-dreaming, 1724200415
[quote=stunet]1) Way out of line Indo. Gonna give you a warning for unprompted abuse.
2) If you're "not going to engage with someone" then don't engage. How do you do that? Not by telling the world that you're not engaging.[/quote]
Really?
For what post the first one or second one?
So i risk getting banned for calling out anti semiticim?
stunet, 1724200755
[quote=indo-dreaming][quote=stunet]1) Way out of line Indo. Gonna give you a warning for unprompted abuse.
2) If you're "not going to engage with someone" then don't engage. How do you do that? Not by telling the world that you're not engaging.[/quote]
Really?
For what post the first one or second one?
So i risk getting banned for calling out anti semiticim?[/quote]
Mate, I'm not sure if you're taking the piss or not.
Calling for restraint is not being racist.
Calling for Israel to show moderation is not antisemitism.
andy-mac, 1724201215
[quote=stunet]1) Way out of line Indo. Gonna give you a warning for unprompted abuse.
2) If you're "not going to engage with someone" then don't engage. How do you do that? Not by telling the world that you're not engaging.[/quote]
[quote=stunet][quote=indo-dreaming][quote=stunet]1) Way out of line Indo. Gonna give you a warning for unprompted abuse.
2) If you're "not going to engage with someone" then don't engage. How do you do that? Not by telling the world that you're not engaging.[/quote]
Really?
For what post the first one or second one?
So i risk getting banned for calling out anti semiticim?[/quote]
Mate, I'm not sure if you're taking the piss or not.
Calling for restraint is not being racist.
Calling for Israel to show moderation is not antisemitism.[/quote]
Unlike something like Genocide a word that has become totally misused and abused, i guess what is or isnt antisemitism is more subjective and even hard to draw a line of where criticism crosses over to antisemitism.
I totally get that my strong views on this issue, are problematic because any small comment i make on the issue sees a barage of opossing views, and then threads get derailed.
But if i keep things in The Israel/Palestine thread am i free to comment more freely than i am here?
Hiccups, 1724202753
[quote=stunet]
Calling for restraint is not being racist.
Calling for Israel to show moderation is not antisemitism.[/quote]
Baffling that anyone would need this explained to them at this point.
stunet, 1724204580
[quote=indo-dreaming][quote=stunet][quote=indo-dreaming][quote=stunet]1) Way out of line Indo. Gonna give you a warning for unprompted abuse.
2) If you're "not going to engage with someone" then don't engage. How do you do that? Not by telling the world that you're not engaging.[/quote]
Really?
For what post the first one or second one?
So i risk getting banned for calling out anti semiticim?[/quote]
Mate, I'm not sure if you're taking the piss or not.
Calling for restraint is not being racist.
Calling for Israel to show moderation is not antisemitism.[/quote]
Unlike something like Genocide a word that has become totally misused and abused, i guess what is or isnt antisemitism is more subjective and even hard to draw a line of where criticism crosses over to antisemitism.
I totally get that my strong views on this issue, are problematic because any small comment i make on the issue sees a barage of opossing views, and then threads get derailed.
But if i keep things in The Israel/Palestine thread am i free to comment more freely than i am here?[/quote]
Is that what it is, tit for tat?
If he says 'that' it's permission for me to say 'this'?
What is happening in Gaza is a wicked, seemingly insurmountable problem. There are no clear answers, yet one way or another it has to play out and that means it's going to be messy.
I struggle to see how anyone who isn't directly involved sees the war in binary terms. I also struggle to see how anyone who isn't directly involved has, as you say, "strong views", for one side or the other as it's just so tragically sad for both sides.
But I suppose that's the limitations of my own thinking.
At a micro scale, it's also a classic example of why feuds begin. No-one here has any skin in the game but still the fighting is vicious. Get a fucking grip. You could argue for another two years or you could be utterly silent and neither way would make any difference on the ground in Gaza.
So anyway, where does that leave Swellnet? A website - a surfing website - on the other side of the world, frequented by people who have no skin in the game but need to strongly voice their opinion?
For now, take it to the Israel/Palestine thread and nowhere else. That isn't a license to criticise or let your emotions run free. Same rules apply.
But why not, for once, and this applies to everyone, shut the fuck up, then sit and ponder - deeply ponder - how the other side feels?
stunet, 1724205657
Deleted.
See above.
Jelly Flater, 1724205907
;)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oZwVbLCF7F0
stunet, 1724206626
'We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing.' -Charles Bukowski
Jelly Flater, 1724208012
... &
"Nothing is worse than to finish a good shit, then reach over and find the toilet paper container empty. Even the most horrible human being on earth deserves to wipe his ass."
;);)
indo-dreaming, 1724219183
[quote=stunet]'We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing.' -Charles Bukowski[/quote]
Thats fine for us that think this is the only life and we have decent neighbor's, but when you have neighbours that think the next life matters more than this one and they will even get rewarded for killing you, its kinda problematic.
stunet, 1724220658
[quote=indo-dreaming][quote=stunet]'We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing.' -Charles Bukowski[/quote]
Thats fine for us that think this is the only life and we have decent neighbor's, but when you have neighbours that think the next life matters more than this one and they will even get rewarded for killing you, its kinda problematic.[/quote]
An astonishing non sequitur. Impressive in its detachment.
goofyfoot, 1724221388
That’s an incredible reply from the old Indo.
Even for him.
stunet, 1724222040
Indo...to be clear...you're not Jewish or Arabic, you don't live in the Middle East but on Phillip Island. Your existence is trivial to theirs, and theirs is trivial to yours. Strong feelings from you will have zero influence on their world. You're being eaten up by nothing.
southernraw, 1724222786
[quote=stunet]'We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing.' -Charles Bukowski[/quote]
Which runs parallel to Terror Management Theory (TMT)
A thought provoking,long read below for anyone interested. Apologies it's not a podcast ;)
"TMT: Empirical Approach
TMT was inspired from the writings of Ernest Becker (1962,
1973, 1975), who worked to integrate a broad array of social
scientific theory and research. The theory proposes that a
potential for anxiety results from the juxtaposition of death
awareness—presumably a uniquely human capacity made
possible by cognitive abilities such as self-awareness and
abstract thought—and the instinct for self-preservation, which
is common to all animals. To defend against this potential
death anxiety, people must believe that some valued aspect
of themselves will continue, either literally or symbolically,
after cessation of their biological body. Literal immortality
takes the form of an afterlife (e.g., heaven), whereas symbolic immortality takes the form of extensions of the self
(e.g., children, achievements) continuing to exist after the
person’s biological death (Martin, 1999). Whether literal or
symbolic, this cultural anxiety buffer consists of two components: (a) belief in the validity of a cultural worldview and
the standards and values associated with that worldview and
(b) belief that one is meeting or exceeding those standards and
values, that is, self-esteem described it, a cultural worldview is more than merely an
outlook on life: it is an immortality formula
Part of the value of TMT is its examination of a process that is outside of conscious awareness and thereby
not particularly obvious to people employing the proposed
defenses. According to the theory, the problem of death resides
beneath consciousness and, from there, triggers distal death
defenses—the maintenance of worldviews and self-esteem.
The conscious contemplation of death is defended against
differently according to TMT; it is dealt with more rationally by denying vulnerability to physical death or pushing
it into the distant future using proximal death defenses such
as a conscious thought about one’s excellent state of physical
health or one’s family trend toward longevity"
https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=0b4d99844cb43edcccbee0ef665b0511455fc0fb
Jelly Flater, 1724223105
^ noinfo has already proven he can't actually learn or consider anything beyond inbred self gratifying edumacational bs fantasy lectures
- the infantile merry go round of perceived ideological superiority goes on ;)
..."it's kinda problematic" hahahaha
- geez noinfo, gerbil on to infinity and beyond, just never forget to ummm :
" accuse the other side of that which you are guilty" ;)
...and keep scurrying back to the hasbara soup like a good lil cockroach ;);)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqc_g-nwbw
soggydog, 1724225979
Spends heaps of time in the country with the highest population of Muslims in the world, comes home unhurt every time.
Spends his time at home talking about how Muslims want to kill him, you and me.
There’s stupid but this shit is next level.
Also loves to stir shit up. Nothing is in good faith, he only seeks to inflame and divide.
I get mouthy and ridiculous in my retorts.
Necrophilic peadophile for example.
Jelly Flater, 1724227607
"You're being eaten up by nothing."
;)
Jelly Flater, 1724227628
- food for thought
;);)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdL1mkoAmbQ
indo-dreaming, 1724227739
Now you are just making shit up Soggy, my post which all can see above wasn't about me, it was about Israeli's living next door to people that want to kill them and destroy Israel and the reality of trying to deal with that, its not something that you can just ignore.
BTW. As we all know there has been a number of radical islamic attacks/bombing in Indonesia and these happened only through small terrorist groups, not groups that have control of whole states or have military's.
And if im only here to inflame and divide, then what the hell do you think Jelly is here for? thats ALL he does every single post, look above, look below.
GuySmiley, 1724228979
^^ I’m imagining @stu’s eyes are rolling back into his head right now #straightthroughtothekeeper
Edit and below
Still grossly offensive as ever
southernraw, 1724229091
[quote=GuySmiley]^^ I’m imagining @stu’s eyes are rolling back into his head right now #straightthroughtothekeeper
Edit and below
Still grossly offensive as ever[/quote]
Mind boggling hey.
southernraw, 1724229180
Not to mention still hasn't worked out which thread to post this....tripe in.
Complete moron.
southernraw, 1724230076
Just 2 weeks ago i was laughed at and scorned for suggesting this individual was leaning towards radicalisation and extremist views.
Here we sit, and having already been explicitly warned to cut that crap out, he continues with irrational propositions, racially and religiously loaded insults to the 'other' and posts quite derrogative material on multiple threads associated with 'the other'. (the Olympics thread for example).
If these aren't the actions of someone who's extremist views are accelerating rapidly, i don't know what are.
I sure as hell don't wanna see it on a surfing website though.
How many more warnings?
basesix, 1724230146
post things you need to say to him in his little israel thread.
(the latest he's made everyone lose all interest in.)
this is just a fucking ridiculous cry for help now.
the front page deserves better than this.
stunet, 1724230342
OK Indo last post here...
You may have noticed that I deleted your last post. It's out of context - no-one here is an "Israel hater" - and it reads as deliberate aggravation. I think I've tolerated your behaviour very well, not tried to gaslight your intellect, nor read my own feelings into your posts, but at this point you're either being deliberately provocative or you can't grasp the nuance of logic.
I understand you've admitted in the past to having a tendency toward the 'tism, and if that is so, then why not step back from what is an intricate topic? You continually bulldoze absolutes into a field of grey.
Long story short, second warning. One more provocation - deliberate or not - and you're banned.
AlfredWallace, 1724230571
[quote=mikehunt207][quote=indo-dreaming]It digs deep and gets a big reaction as we see because the truth hurts, anti semitism is a form of racism, It can take many forms some more subtle than others and outside of islamic circles ironically today more a problem coming from the left rather than the far right (who in reality is a small fringe group)
Published not long after Oct 7th
"Antisemitism has moved from the right to the left in the US − and falls back on long-standing stereotypes
The U.S. is currently experiencing one of the most significant waves of antisemitism that it has ever seen. Jewish communities are shaken and traumatized.
Jewish and civil rights organizations both in the U.S. and in other Western countries reported a rise in antisemitic incidents following the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas attack on Israel and the subsequent Israeli military response. The Anti-Defamation League reported that in the first week after Hamas’ deadly attack, in which 1,400 Israelis were killed, antisemitic incidents in the U.S. tripled in comparison to the same week last year.
Similarly, London police recorded a 1,353% increase in antisemitic crimes compared with the same period a year earlier.
In addition, antisemitic symbols and rhetoric seem to be part of a growing number of protests that erupted around the globe following the escalation of the conflict between Israel and Hamas."
Its not a new thing though as this 6 year old article shows..
"The shame of antisemitism on the left has a long, malign history
So, we’re back to the “Jewish Question”? The current antisemitism crisis on the left has not come out of nowhere. Instead, it has its roots in a tradition on the left itself, which, at best, has always had difficulty in responding swiftly to antisemitism and, at worst, excused or condoned, even promoted it. It is not, of course, the only tradition on the left, but unless we understand this history, we won’t get very far in resolving today’s crisis."
Why does anti Israeli aggression always have to be labelled anti semitism? It's not the same thing and constantly using it as a free pass for atrocities is getting pretty old.[/quote]
Mikehunt207. Hi.
I totally agree with your last paragraph, you summed it up in one. AW
soggydog, 1724230702
Indo, here’s a little tip about posting I use more often that you’d know.
1. Write your post.
2. Read it aloud to yourself.
3. Edit, correct spelling and punctuation.
4. Read it again to yourself.
STEP 5 IS THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP.
5. Delete it and go and hang with your kids. Without the laptop phone tablet etc.
It’s a winner every time. Eventually you’ll go weeks only using the best part of step 5.
Give it a crack. You’ll probably like it.
mattlock, 1724230779
He could help his Misso with the cooking as well.
andy-mac, 1724231058
[quote=soggydog]Indo, here’s a little tip about posting I use more often that you’d know.
1. Write your post.
2. Read it aloud to yourself.
3. Edit, correct spelling and punctuation.
4. Read it again to yourself.
STEP 5 IS THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP.
5. Delete it and go and hang with your kids. Without the laptop phone tablet etc.
It’s a winner every time. Eventually you’ll go weeks only using the best part of step 5.
Give it a crack. You’ll probably like it.[/quote]
Good advice Soggy...
I will also endeavour to do more of that.
tubeshooter, 1724231430
[quote=soggydog]Indo, here’s a little tip about posting I use more often that you’d know.
1. Write your post.
2. Read it aloud to yourself.
3. Edit, correct spelling and punctuation.
4. Read it again to yourself.
STEP 5 IS THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP.
5. Delete it and go and hang with your kids. Without the laptop phone tablet etc.
It’s a winner every time. Eventually you’ll go weeks only using the best part of step 5.
Give it a crack. You’ll probably like it.[/quote]
Sage advice.
The rest of my post will self-destruct in 3 - 2 - 1
AlfredWallace, 1724231645
This irrational behaviour by a particular islander, the only logical explanation is that it’s the ‘curse of the non-subscriber ‘, a decade later, it’s time to pay the Swellnet Grim Reaper, or else. AW
basesix, 1724231989
'What's what?', ahhhhhhh, Watts..
palate cleanser.. imagine being a gay feller that kinda liked Dave Davies, and then becoming immortalised by the Kinks and then the Jam??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGrniCrIHGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPgsmUYBE2k
seeds, 1724232281
I was admonished somewhere else for saying he didn’t understand what was said to him.
I think I’m vindicated by what has transpired since.
AlfredWallace, 1724232738
[quote=seeds]I was admonished somewhere else for saying he didn’t understand what was said to him.
I think I’m vindicated by what has transpired since.[/quote]
Seeds. Hi mate. How are you doing ?
Geez, you can hear a pin drop in the Swellnet engine room, it’s all very quiet,
dumbly,, dumbly,, dumbly,,, dumbly , ooh, Was that a mouse ? . AW
Jelly Flater, 1724232953
^ haha yes @AW ;)
...and for any keen resuuurchers, aaand for edumacation purposes ;);)
Hey AW,
Took a walk today along the fringes of a shallow salty lake.
Just a slight breeze through the trees that was assisting the tiny lapping of the waves at my feet.
Better than the silence you describe above.
Strangely no bird sounds.
southernraw, 1724233307
Ahhhh...hows the civility. :-)
southernraw, 1724233313
Ahhhh...hows the civility. :-)
southernraw, 1724233370
@seeds listening to that very sound right now at sunset.
basesix, 1724233406
^ that's fucken hilarious @JF, that bee one today was astonishing..!
AlfredWallace, 1724233416
[quote=Jelly Flater]^ haha yes @AW ;)
...and for any keen resuuurchers, aaand for edumacation purposes ;);)
JellyFlater. Hi fella, hope ya well. Love your posts as usual .
I’m twiddling my thumbs, just eaten, have been ushered to my seat , popcorn in a bag (with the bottom cut out so I can maybe twiddle something else) and, patiently awaiting this evening’s matinee.
I wonder what the title of this evening’s entertainment may be.
‘Away in a m(anger) ‘
AW.
seeds, 1724233541
@JF next spring I’m burying myself under the tarps and the Devil’s Parrot and I are having a little chat afterwards.
AlfredWallace, 1724233733
[quote=seeds]Hey AW,
Took a walk today along the fringes of a shallow salty lake.
Just a slight breeze through the trees that was assisting the tiny lapping of the waves at my feet.
Better than the silence you describe above.
Strangely no bird sounds.[/quote]
Seeds. Hi mate.
Don’t you love sound when what you’re hearing, is the ‘only’ sound.
You made it sound wonderful. Good stuff. AW
Edit. Was it around midday when you didn’t hear birds ?
seeds, 1724234078
[quote=southernraw]@seeds listening to that very sound right now at sunset.[/quote]
Noice.
Sun setting about now. What’s the setting?
edit That sounds a bit strange.
What are you seeing?
seeds, 1724234210
Between 1 and 2.
AlfredWallace, 1724234583
[quote=seeds]Between 1 and 2.[/quote]
As you’d be well aware, birds are most active early in the morning and late in the day just before dusk.
Generally feeding and looking for a ‘bit of it’.
In between they, socialise, preen, relax and loaf.
What a life .
Everytime I read about your Devils Parrot, I crack up laughing. It’ll do your head in. AW
seeds, 1724235146
Nah that soft c… left after 48 hours.
Last year he started a new nest about 40 metres away that I had to battle him over.
This year nothing.
It’s the lady calling the shots. She must be a real ball breaker.
https://youtu.be/pbyHseP4NLo?si=ywCf4n-f_rLO9nyK
southernraw, 1724236388
[quote=seeds][quote=southernraw]@seeds listening to that very sound right now at sunset.[/quote]
Noice.
Sun setting about now. What’s the setting?
edit That sounds a bit strange.
What are you seeing?[/quote]
Haha all good mate.
A bunch of Pelicans, some spoonbills, alot of cormorants and ibis returning from the West, a glassy surface with little waves lapping and a beaut sunset(it was) with kookaburras carrying on...even though they're pests here, i still love hearing em.
But that temp dropped about 10degrees as soon as the sun dipped below the horizon.
AlfredWallace, 1724236868
[quote=southernraw][quote=seeds][quote=southernraw]@seeds listening to that very sound right now at sunset.[/quote]
Noice.
Sun setting about now. What’s the setting?
edit That sounds a bit strange.
What are you seeing?[/quote]
Haha all good mate.
A bunch of Pelicans, some spoonbills, alot of cormorants and ibis returning from the West, a glassy surface with little waves lapping and a beaut sunset(it was) with kookaburras carrying on...even though they're pests here, i still love hearing em.
But that temp dropped about 10degrees as soon as the sun dipped below the horizon.[/quote]
Southernraw. Hi mate.
Well your description of a bunch of pelicans , spoonbills, cormorants (shags) and ibis returning from the west could very well be a load of politicians en route back to Canberra after a liberal party meeting in Perth. AW
seeds, 1724237125
@Southern it sounds awesome.
Funny the kookas over there now.
They are the first thing I hear here pre dawn and last thing at sunset.
Bush alarm clocks here. One always wets the bed briefly an hour before dawn.
Can’t you at least wait until it’s light enough to see?
Some summer sunsets they are wonderful with their raucousness
southernraw, 1724237662
haha very good @AW. Although an insult to those birds! hehe
Yeah they're classic @seeds. They probably think they're doing you a favour!
Getup. Surfs pumping. Get up. Surfs pumping.
tubeshooter, 1724237993
Won't be long till the baby kookas show up.
I love em but fark they can carry on and sound oddly disturbing.
I don't know why but adult kookas and lorries around my place seem to drop their kiddies off in the surrounding trees in the morning and then bugger off to get food, leaving me to deal with the whinging.
AlfredWallace, 1724238122
[quote=southernraw]haha very good @AW. Although an insult to those birds! hehe
Yeah they're classic @seeds. They probably think they're doing you a favour!
Getup. Surfs pumping. Get up. Surfs pumping.[/quote]
Well, the swell birds have been calling here, it’s going to be on , come Friday morning. About time, our patience has been wearing very thin.
Time to get the Eric out. AW
AlfredWallace, 1724238364
[quote=tubeshooter]Won't be long till the baby kookas show up.
I love em but fark they can carry on and sound oddly disturbing.
I don't know why but adult kookas and lorries around my place seem to drop their kiddies off in the surrounding trees in the morning and then bugger off to get food, leaving me to deal with the whinging.[/quote]
Hi Tubeshooter.
Bird crèche.
Our battle is always Magpies and Kookaburras having a verbal stoush , morning then evenings , trying to out do each other. But ultimately it’s all about boundaries. AW
tubeshooter, 1724238813
NIMBY ;)
nah they're cool.
Cheers AW
Edit. The kookies here are still giving the maggies a hard time, one in particular, cranky bugger.
GuySmiley, 1724239003
All this talk about birds reminds me of an equally over the top ridiculous story to the events of today ^^ …. Birdie Num Nums to you
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SU9s8L7Sewg
I was immaculately stoned when I first saw this and to say that I laughed myself sick is an understatement …
tubeshooter, 1724239345
The bird is the word
AlfredWallace, 1724239444
[quote=GuySmiley]All this talk about birds reminds me of an equally over the top ridiculous story to the events of today ^^ …. Birdie Num Nums to you
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SU9s8L7Sewg
I was immaculately stoned when I first saw this and to say that I laughed myself sick is an understatement …[/quote]
GuySmiley. Hi.
Ditto. What a pisser. AW
seeds, 1724240417
Ha Tubeshooter
That song is somehow catchy
How it ever came to be? Especially back then
blackers, 1724241348
[quote=seeds]Ha Tubeshooter
That song is somehow catchy
How it ever came to be? Especially back then[/quote]
The Cramps used to do it as their show closer, Ivy walking Lux off stage after he had clambered all over the stacks destroying the mic and squealing the lyrics. Freakin awesome.
tubeshooter, 1724241652
@ Seeds,
I think it had something to do with the 'establishment' at the time.
The bird being the middle finger in this case. Classic 60's.
southernraw, 1724241719
Haha The Party. That birdy num nums was all we'd say as kids.
TS maybe the birds recognise you as one of the tribe so feel safe leaving their young with you. Well played!
Just on birds, I've always told people who are struggling through hard times or who are stuck in cities away from wild nature, just go outside, sit and watch birds. There's birds everywhere! Even the humble sparrows and pigeons. Seagulls.
Just watching them go about their thing in a non human way. It's good meditation for the soul.
seeds, 1724242209
This was the scene. Funny stuff.
I found the movie hilarious as a young fella. Probably no different now with what I find funny
https://youtu.be/ZFKJuzrCGj4?si=d5_Ay5nLJHEWHyBc
southernraw, 1724244279
Haha! Thx @seeds!
Haven't seen that for about 35 years!!
A lovely menagerie of comments , from the flock , above .
Like a bunch of wonderful Kookaburra's and Magpies , singing the night away .
I have been to a few , GREAT Parties .
Was never Arrested , by a Copper , in uniform , so nun better haha , than Peter's Yum Yum Pool Party .
GuySmiley, 1724278932
You’re sounding like a screeching galah @PD, maggies and jackies don’t sing into the night, nesting maggies do occasionally very softly worble to each other during the night and jackies get up very early to sing out their territory but that’s it …. anyway, does this guy remind you of anyone?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kGi2AlMhraQ
Pop Down, 1724280351
Very funny clip smiley, had forgotten about The Horn .
Some Kookaburra's wake up signing , before light , no joking and really not trying 2B a Galah , comes naturally .
The Director was Stu , tough job .
The Imported Indian , with the Never Say Die , Maxwell Smart attitude , could B me , as I often step on explosives , but guessing U have me , Charlie'd .
Indo has Thick, impenetrable Skin .
Jelly Flater, 1724280508
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3OC2aPCuzjo
GuySmiley, 1724282251
Boogie with Stu
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_wCZOm0k8WQ
AndyM, 1724284038
Classic Guy.
CMC, 1724299672
Great Clip!!
Saw Led Zep live in 1972 when they were at their peak, still the best concert I've ever been to!!
blackers, 1724313163
bird song
Jelly Flater, 1724314164
bird food ;)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BqnG_Ei35JE
blackers, 1724314296
Byrds fly high.
andy-mac, 1724314893
Sticking with bird theme, nice n mellow tribute to Janice ....
^^ that’s a lovely memory @AW, did you’re parents / grandparents ever call them Jackies? My grandfather called them that, the one that got around Essendon up to the late 40s on a horse
AlfredWallace, 1724320584
[quote=GuySmiley]^^ that’s a lovely memory @AW, did you’re parents / grandparents ever call them Jackies? My grandfather called them that, the one that got around Essendon up to the mid 50’s on a horse[/quote]
GuySmiley. Yes mate, they did. They were colloquially called Jackie’s for awhile.
Birds common names have often changed through periods of time, not their true common names but regional names.
For example. Crested Pigeons here in Victoria in the south are so called, but over the border in say the Tocumwal Berrigan area, locals call them Topknot Pigeons which they truly are not, entirely different bird all together.
Sometimes colloquially incorrect names are applied and it goes too far past a point of no return. I /we beg to differ.
I’ve had plenty of Barney’s with truck drivers when they spot me with binoculars and I say Crested Pigeons, they forcefully and vehemently reply Topknots mate, Topknots. AW
@AW @JF, Lyrebirds are great mimics. Cloudhill nursery and gardens up in Olinda have great chainsaw, car horn, baby crying mimicking lyrebirds
AlfredWallace, 1724321482
[quote=GuySmiley]@AW @JF, Lyrebirds are great mimics. Cloudhill nursery and gardens up in Olinda have great chainsaw, car horn, baby crying mimicking lyrebirds[/quote]
GuySmiley. You’ve gotta love Lyrebirds, as stated by DAtt. The world’s greatest mimic. It’s all about sexual selection, nothing else.
We use to have friends in Powelltown. It was on every day up there. AW
GuySmiley, 1724322175
^^ indeed you do, we stayed in a small cottage deep in the rainforest up in the Kangaroo Valley and one lived under the floor, started up before dawn every morning sending the loudest whips across the valley to an equally determined co conspirator :/
My favorite bird is the humble magpie. So intelligent.
Went to the birds of prey show on K.I. a few years back and a maggie would swoop in everyday and steal the show by picking up rubbish and putting it in the bin to the amusement of the crowd. He made the eagles and owls look stupid and the ranger had no choice but to make him part of the show.
We have a pair in our backyard who seem to enjoy our company, and we have to stop them from walking inside. They sit on the balcony warbling and tap on the glass to get our attention. They had a baby last year and it had a broken beak and had trouble eating, so we fed it until the parents chased it away to find its own territory. Now and then it would come back for a feed but if the parents came along it would shit itself and cower under a bush until they went.
There is also about a dozen down on the beach here who think they are seagulls and scavenge for scraps.
AlfredWallace, 1724324533
[quote=old-dog]My favorite bird is the humble magpie. So intelligent.
Went to the birds of prey show on K.I. a few years back and a maggie would swoop in everyday and steal the show by picking up rubbish and putting it in the bin to the amusement of the crowd. He made the eagles and owls look stupid and the ranger had no choice but to make him part of the show.
We have a pair in our backyard who seem to enjoy our company, and we have to stop them from walking inside. They sit on the balcony warbling and tap on the glass to get our attention. They had a baby last year and it had a broken beak and had trouble eating, so we fed it until the parents chased it away to find its own territory. Now and then it would come back for a feed but if the parents came along it would shit itself and cower under a bush until they went.
There is also about a dozen down on the beach here who think they are seagulls and scavenge for scraps.[/quote]
Old-Dog. Hi mate.
Yep, hard to go past a magpie as everyone’s favourite, they are like family as you rightly stated.
They are funny, clever and intelligent, caring of their kin, decent mimicry also, just full on and around people a lot of the time.
Recently voted Australia’s most loved bird. AW
old-dog, 1724325544
Hi AW, Just a crying shame they are the mascot for Collingwood and Port Adelaide, the two most hated teams in the AFL.
tubeshooter, 1724326815
Swooping Season Soon.
Pays to get onside with the locals with the odd treat.
Sure, it's a bit of a Protection Racket but what can you do?
seaslug, 1724329850
Peggy and Molly Facebook
seaslug, 1724329876
and my Mr Einstein :)
seaslug, 1724330280
My locals never swoop me, on a yearly daily retainer
Distracted, 1724356507
There’s a couple studies showing that magpies that swoop have either been harassed or had their nest tree harassed by people and people are then considered a threat. Most magpies don’t swoop.
andy-mac, 1724365626
Incredible this is not getting more coverage in surf media.
Bloke has probably done more than most for protecting our oceans.
You can sign petition in attached link.
Well worth supporting andy-nac. Thanks for sharing.
Back to the birds
Too many birds in one tree, particularly the noisy feckin miners squalling from pre dawn to post sunset.
[quote=old-dog]Hi AW, Just a crying shame they are the mascot for Collingwood and Port Adelaide, the two most hated teams in the AFL.[/quote]
Old-dog. Hi mate. I love magpies, especially when I move across Australia on bird surveys, tabulating the different colour variations and even the cross overs where birds from one region are found at the interface with birds of another region.
And………., I’m a Collingwood supporter, it was meant to be.
Getting a wave of late, just interested. All the best. AW
southernraw, 1724412113
[quote=AlfredWallace][quote=old-dog]Hi AW, Just a crying shame they are the mascot for Collingwood and Port Adelaide, the two most hated teams in the AFL.[/quote]
Old-dog. Hi mate. I love magpies, especially when I move across Australia on bird surveys, tabulating the different colour variations and even the cross overs where birds from one region are found at the interface with birds of another region.
And………., I’m a Collingwood supporter, it was meant to be.
Getting a wave of late, just interested. All the best. AW[/quote]
@AlfredWallace I'm still hurting from the 1990 Grandfinal,
That aside, looks like your Pies are gonna finish the season on a high and send Nick Daicos to a well deserved Charlie.
Just out of curiosity, favourite pie of all time? And not the other pie thread. That got outta hand!
Personally, i was always a Peter Daicos fan.
blackers, 1724412859
Peter McKenna went alright.
basesix, 1724412951
russell ebert or timmy evans.
according to the signatures in my footy budget, anyway.
southernraw, 1724413072
Yeah the great McKenna. Theres a name for folklore in goalkicking @blackers.
haha @basesix...i see what you did there. SA Great!
basesix, 1724413384
well.. 'heaps good'... we love a red hot go : )
blackers, 1724413823
Worked with members of the Elbert clan. Nice peeps.
blackers, 1724413885
Had a cat called Timmy too so go figure.
southernraw, 1724413922
[quote=basesix]well.. 'heaps good'... we love a red hot go : )[/quote]
hehe. Exactly!
GuySmiley, 1724414177
[quote=blackers]Peter McKenna went alright.[/quote]
As a very young kid my dad pointed McKenna out playing for the local YCW seniors taking a speckie during a game on the Nth Heidelberg oval across the road from our house. McKenna got introduced to Collingwood the next season by the local parish priest (Fr Mogg)** and the rest his history. Of course McKenna was only as good as the Collingwood rovers delivering the ball to his chest, another brilliant fat arsed full forward of the time
** links between Collingwood and the Catholic Church go back to Maddox and Wren
blackers, 1724414305
Okay Guy, Des Tuddenham. PIe or Bomber? Yes McKenna was a fat arse but that was the era. Slow and violent.
southernraw, 1724414383
Comedy at the G at the moment.
Melbourne being put through the AFL version of chinese torture.
I always associated Tuddenham with Collingwood @blackers.
GuySmiley, 1724414419
Never a bomber in my mind
AlfredWallace, 1724414675
[quote=southernraw][quote=AlfredWallace][quote=old-dog]Hi AW, Just a crying shame they are the mascot for Collingwood and Port Adelaide, the two most hated teams in the AFL.[/quote]
Old-dog. Hi mate. I love magpies, especially when I move across Australia on bird surveys, tabulating the different colour variations and even the cross overs where birds from one region are found at the interface with birds of another region.
And………., I’m a Collingwood supporter, it was meant to be.
Getting a wave of late, just interested. All the best. AW[/quote]
@AlfredWallace I'm still hurting from the 1990 Grandfinal,
That aside, looks like your Pies are gonna finish the season on a high and send Nick Daicos to a well deserved Charlie.
Just out of curiosity, favourite pie of all time? And not the other pie thread. That got outta hand!
Personally, i was always a Peter Daicos fan.[/quote]
Southernraw. Hi fella. Favourite pie for me would be Peter Daicos.
He kicked just shy of 100 goals in most years, skill personified, you can see why his boys have such tremendous skill.
Peter McKenna , for me, is still the best kick in the VFL/AFL eras, he’s technique was flawless. Cruelled by knee injuries, of which in today’s game are totally repairable. AW
blackers, 1724415400
Cheers boys, I came to Vic in 72 and think he was a Bomber at that stage, son5hats what I associate with him.. As for the lightening farce, it extends both club’s seasons for half an hour. Couldn’t happen to 2 better teams, cept perhaps Carlton.
southernraw, 1724415401
Yeah great choice AW!! For a pies fan, you're not bad! hehe
As good as Nick is, i think Pete was mecurial....had that freakish ability. I've got his autograph tucked away somewhere.
And fwiw, i actually like Josh Daicos better than Nick....as good as Nick is.
Hope you're enjoying your lightning break!
AlfredWallace, 1724415620
[quote=southernraw]Yeah great choice AW!! For a pies fan, you're not bad! hehe
As good as Nick is, i think Pete was mecurial....had that freakish ability. I've got his autograph tucked away somewhere.
And fwiw, i actually like Josh Daicos better than Nick....as good as Nick is.
Hope you're enjoying your lightning break![/quote]
After today’s surf I’m stuffed, about to fall asleep, out the door at 5.30am tomoz, catch the last bit of this swell.
Anyone else been getting waves of late ? AW
southernraw, 1724415765
Good on ya AW. I'm sure you can always watch the riveting replay in the morning.
Hope you get waves. Not much quality here of late.
AlfredWallace, 1724415813
[quote=GuySmiley]Never a bomber in my mind[/quote]
I’ve dealt with heaps of VFL/AFL players over my time.
Des Tuddenham tried to stitch me up once in a big commercial landscape project, fortunately I was the wiser of group.
I’ve worked with Rene Kink, Bowden from Richmond, Stoneham from Essendon, Van der Haar, Ted Whitten senior and Ted Whitten junior.
In 2019 Dustin Martin called me late in the year for an urgent job to perform a huge turfed area at his Kew home, I knocked him back, he was very polite and a very nice guy to converse with. Most of them were not like him.
I found most of them to be very tight fisted. AW
GuySmiley, 1724416403
Got the flu so I’m not getting wet
@aw, get a couple of me, thanks
southernraw, 1724417952
Rest up, get well GS.
GuySmiley, 1724457644
Not dead yet :)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W4rR-OsTNCg
AlfredWallace, 1724476889
[quote=GuySmiley]Got the flu so I’m not getting wet
@aw, get a couple of me, thanks[/quote]
@GuySmiley, @SouthernRaw.
Guy, well I did. Super clean this morning, 3ft, odd bigger one , few waves to a set, hardly anyone in the water, patience paid off.
So enjoyable, air definitely warmer, good vibe amongst the five of us.
Give a wave to get a wave, good mantra.
Saw a seal cruise through the line up. A lot of fish splashing around, hence all the Australasian Gannets ( Morus serrator) soaring and gliding past. Life’s good.
All the best for a speedy recovery, Guy. AW
Edit. I wonder if Blackers can work out the anomaly with the gannets Genus name.
Pop Down, 1724483049
Hello AW
Great work surfing with " Good Vibes " and keep living the Good Life going .
Thanks 4 sharing , again .
Perhaps the seal was attracted to the Blue Bandicoot , doesn't sound too fishy 2 me :) ?
A lovely Off Shore almost , but feels like , Spring day .
Things will be popping up , all over the place , coming out from hibernation .
Drop Bear season ., maybe ?
A gannets Genus , sounds important 2 , as everyone needs 1 .
GuySmiley, 1724483268
^^ good one @AW may the force be with you
blackers, 1724483709
Good one AW, you didn't miss anything this side Guy. Rest up, it's a bugger this year
AlfredWallace, 1724484136
[quote=Pop Down]Hello AW
Great work surfing with " Good Vibes " and keep living the Good Life going .
Thanks 4 sharing , again .
Perhaps the seal was attracted to the Blue Bandicoot , doesn't sound too fishy 2 me :) ?
A lovely Off Shore almost , but feels like , Spring day .
Things will be popping up , all over the place , coming out from hibernation .
Drop Bear season ., maybe ?
A gannets Genus , sounds important 2 , as everyone needs 1 .[/quote]
PopDown.
Hi mate. Hope ya well. I’m in bed, looking at the sun, woke at 4am, thought fuck it, so I hit the coast early, bit of music and a few cups of tea in the car with the dog.
Beautiful day, 21c, coast is looking like a gem.
A swell post surf breakfast discussion with a friend lead to talking about the Bluebird today.
If the forecast holds true to its word, late next week is looking real good for my ‘blessing of the fleet’, albeit it will be only one ocean going vessel, the Bluebird is going to get its head wet in an oceanic baptism.
I employ the Steve Shearer (Freeride76) approach in the line up, talk to most , make quick friendships , applaud good waves caught, ( pumps their ego) and it increases your wave count twofold.
I hope you are getting wet in whatever way you can.
From a scientific perspective, there’s something NQR about the Gannets genus. We will see who can work it out.
All the best. AW
Pop Down, 1724486047
U seized the day , AW .
I am out of the water , on doctors advice , such a pain !
Bloody right shoulder , again .
After building the back up , things will hold together without pain , apparently .
So started going 2 a gym and doing weights ffs !
Might have 2 become a Kneeboarder .
Please keep up the great surfing Updates ., like Steve .
No tears over 1 cm , so surgery not needed
old-dog, 1724486073
Weird birds, Gannets nostrils are inside their mouth, and they have air bags to cushion the impact when diving. I was fishing once and one of the bastards swooped down and grabbed the bait as I cast out, took me ages to get it untangled and I got covered in real smelly shit.
AlfredWallace, 1724488921
[quote=old-dog]Weird birds, Gannets nostrils are inside their mouth, and they have air bags to cushion the impact when diving. I was fishing once and one of the bastards swooped down and grabbed the bait as I cast out, took me ages to get it untangled and I got covered in real smelly shit.[/quote]
Old- Dog. Hi mate.
Gannets nostril anatomy has them as you’ve correctly stated , inside the mouth for obvious reasons.
Imagine the sodium blast up those tubes when impacting the water surface.
They have baffles to soften the impact.
I watch all seabirds whilst waiting for waves.
Today over the reef area I was surfing, a lone Black Swan just appeared from the horizon.
A few weeks ago, a mate of mine and I saw a very strange sighting whilst out the back.
A New Holland Honeyeater some 500m from the Jan Juc cliff line flying from the water horizon back to the land.
Many birds get curious and head off thinking they’ll make landfall somewhere, ultimately turning around not so long after they departed.
A small bird with its tiny amount of heat generating body mass would perish very quickly.
Loads of Sooty and the odd Pied Oystercatchers present of late, skulking the low tide reefs. AW
blackers, 1724490390
Hey AW missed your hidden quest. We talking Morus serrator, vs Morus australis ( or similar ) perchance? A diving mulberry?
southernraw, 1724490796
Sounds like a great morning AW. Hmmm. The mystery of the Gannet? Got me baffled. Defiinitely one of my faves to see. Have some great footage i've taken of them speeding along huge long lines of southern ocean swell. Amazing how they can glide into a howling Westerly by using both the wave as a wind barrier, then getting a boost into the air from it's updraft as it breaks, then using gravity to glide back down into the wind, barely a single wing flap in the whole process, into a headwind! Super impressive. Is the anomaly that they're actually not Australian? Btw love the Sooty too. Fave seabird.
southernraw, 1724490899
Ahhh scratch that. Just saw above post. Wow! Classic.
AlfredWallace, 1724490976
[quote=blackers]Hey AW missed your hidden quest. We talking Morus serrator, vs Morus australis ( or similar ) perchance? A diving mulberry…[/quote]
Blackers. Hi.
You’ve nailed it in one, clever.
Two biological organisms sharing the same genus, this is totally against convention.
I call them ‘bird plants’
I’ve got quite a list.
It pisses me off because, as you would know, the whole reason we have a nomenclatural system of binomial naming is so that anyone, anywhere at anytime from any country can identify a said organism no matter what language is spoken.
I’ve discussed this with colleagues, asked how is this permitted, they say it’s all hush hush with private interests at hand.
Anyway, I like (biological) trivia , you are ‘top of the pops’ at present.
All the best. AW
Edit. Here’s some more I’ve collected.
Arenaria, Chloris, Eremophila, Prunella, plant genera as you and I would know from horticultural studies, they also happen to be birds as well, pisses me off.
AlfredWallace, 1724491492
[quote=southernraw]Sounds like a great morning AW. Hmmm. The mystery of the Gannet? Got me baffled. Defiinitely one of my faves to see. Have some great footage i've taken of them speeding along huge long lines of southern ocean swell. Amazing how they can glide into a howling Westerly by using both the wave as a wind barrier, then getting a boost into the air from it's updraft as it breaks, then using gravity to glide back down into the wind, barely a single wing flap in the whole process, into a headwind! Super impressive. Is the anomaly that they're actually not Australian? Btw love the Sooty too. Fave seabird.[/quote]
Southernraw. Hi mate. T’was a great morning, fast razor like right handers, punchy wall and speed, something a near 60 year old needs, super fun on a short MOTE channeled bottom twin fin with big fins, flying.
We both reside on or near the Southern Ocean, I love it.
The clarity of the water column is incredible at present especially over the cluster of reefs I surf regularly.
You’d know, the key to birds gliding so close to the water surface is the anatomy/texture of the water surface itself , lightly or slightly ruffled, producing pock holes like a golf ball but in halves, this upturns the wind and all those uplifts connect together and gives the bird the magic carpet ride.
Don’t you love physics. I do. AW
southernraw, 1724491567
Wow didn't know that fine detail AW. Thanks for the hot tip!!
Yeah it's a beautiful ocean and i'm lucky to live right near where it's at it's most terrifying extreme.
Love the stretch of coast where you are too. Some pretty epic energy along there.
AlfredWallace, 1724492007
[quote=southernraw]Wow didn't know that fine detail AW. Thanks for the hot tip!!
Yeah it's a beautiful ocean and i'm lucky to live right near where it's at it's most terrifying extreme.
Love the stretch of coast where you are too. Some pretty epic energy along there.[/quote]
When I lived in Albany in 1984, I saw plenty of that energy, I was 19 years old, we’d arrive at some hidden spots and I’d almost shit my pants at the size and as you stated, energy.
I was a skinny kid getting hammered by massive surf, I survived and became all the better for it.
Some days around Denmark at some spots, I couldn’t get over how powerful the ocean would become, awe inspiring really.
With personal triumphs, fear abated gradually, but yeah fuck, some days I thought I’m going to drown, boards were crap then, too thick, too heavy, too short. AW
southernraw, 1724498079
[quote=AlfredWallace][quote=southernraw]Wow didn't know that fine detail AW. Thanks for the hot tip!!
Yeah it's a beautiful ocean and i'm lucky to live right near where it's at it's most terrifying extreme.
Love the stretch of coast where you are too. Some pretty epic energy along there.[/quote]
When I lived in Albany in 1984, I saw plenty of that energy, I was 19 years old, we’d arrive at some hidden spots and I’d almost shit my pants at the size and as you stated, energy.
I was a skinny kid getting hammered by massive surf, I survived and became all the better for it.
Some days around Denmark at some spots, I couldn’t get over how powerful the ocean would become, awe inspiring really.
With personal triumphs, fear abated gradually, but yeah fuck, some days I thought I’m going to drown, boards were crap then, too thick, too heavy, too short. AW[/quote]
Unreal AW. Great recollections and yep, this whole stretch of coast from Augusta to Esperance....and beyond is every bit of that.
And probably same as your coast, it's always waaaaaay bigger than it looks. How many times i've thought it's 3-4foot and you get down to the beach and it's 8foot plus! hahaha. Tail between legs stuff. But exhilarating.
Gotta have the right boards to make the most of this coast. Need alot of boards from big to small. My biggest dillema every morning is which 5 boards to put in the car for the day. Those 5 boards dictate the direction i go. They don't neccesarily have to be amazing boards. Just boards that match the conditions.
You've got a great way of seeing the world AW. Love it.
Thanks mate.
AlfredWallace, 1724499716
[quote=southernraw][quote=AlfredWallace][quote=southernraw]Wow didn't know that fine detail AW. Thanks for the hot tip!!
Yeah it's a beautiful ocean and i'm lucky to live right near where it's at it's most terrifying extreme.
Love the stretch of coast where you are too. Some pretty epic energy along there.[/quote]
When I lived in Albany in 1984, I saw plenty of that energy, I was 19 years old, we’d arrive at some hidden spots and I’d almost shit my pants at the size and as you stated, energy.
I was a skinny kid getting hammered by massive surf, I survived and became all the better for it.
Some days around Denmark at some spots, I couldn’t get over how powerful the ocean would become, awe inspiring really.
With personal triumphs, fear abated gradually, but yeah fuck, some days I thought I’m going to drown, boards were crap then, too thick, too heavy, too short. AW[/quote]
Unreal AW. Great recollections and yep, this whole stretch of coast from Augusta to Esperance....and beyond is every bit of that.
And probably same as your coast, it's always waaaaaay bigger than it looks. How many times i've thought it's 3-4foot and you get down to the beach and it's 8foot plus! hahaha. Tail between legs stuff. But exhilarating.
Gotta have the right boards to make the most of this coast. Need alot of boards from big to small. My biggest dillema every morning is which 5 boards to put in the car for the day. Those 5 boards dictate the direction i go. They don't neccesarily have to be amazing boards. Just boards that match the conditions.
You've got a great way of seeing the world AW. Love it.
Thanks mate.[/quote]
Southernraw. Hi.
Great chatting with you as always.
I’ve 11 boards, purchased over several years, no opulence, just what’s required, can’t part with any of them, like you, I have no favourite, I just surf the board that suits the conditions, it could be a quad , thruster or a twin fin in all different lengths, but always rounded tails. Bed beckons. Catch ya. AW
tubeshooter, 1724499942
At least Morus serrator is easy to remember.
My fisho colleagues will be impressed.
Or maybe not.
southernraw, 1724503823
Always round tails or rounded pins here too AW. ;-)
Pop Down, 1724532229
11 boards AW !
Great , U must Quiver with excitement , deciding which Beast 2 ride .
I have always surfed Rounded Pins .
What's the benefits of a Round Tail ?
Round tails , do look nice !
Is a tail , that important , or just one small part , of a boards Feel ?
ALL the small parts , have 2 work together !
Probably helps 2 get aRound , am guessing :) .
Surfing and surfing equipment , it's Unreal !
andy-mac, 1724536431
[quote=southernraw][quote=AlfredWallace][quote=southernraw]Wow didn't know that fine detail AW. Thanks for the hot tip!!
Yeah it's a beautiful ocean and i'm lucky to live right near where it's at it's most terrifying extreme.
Love the stretch of coast where you are too. Some pretty epic energy along there.[/quote]
When I lived in Albany in 1984, I saw plenty of that energy, I was 19 years old, we’d arrive at some hidden spots and I’d almost shit my pants at the size and as you stated, energy.
I was a skinny kid getting hammered by massive surf, I survived and became all the better for it.
Some days around Denmark at some spots, I couldn’t get over how powerful the ocean would become, awe inspiring really.
With personal triumphs, fear abated gradually, but yeah fuck, some days I thought I’m going to drown, boards were crap then, too thick, too heavy, too short. AW[/quote]
Unreal AW. Great recollections and yep, this whole stretch of coast from Augusta to Esperance....and beyond is every bit of that.
And probably same as your coast, it's always waaaaaay bigger than it looks. How many times i've thought it's 3-4foot and you get down to the beach and it's 8foot plus! hahaha. Tail between legs stuff. But exhilarating.
Gotta have the right boards to make the most of this coast. Need alot of boards from big to small. My biggest dillema every morning is which 5 boards to put in the car for the day. Those 5 boards dictate the direction i go. They don't neccesarily have to be amazing boards. Just boards that match the conditions.
You've got a great way of seeing the world AW. Love it.
Thanks mate.[/quote]
West is definitely best gentlemen.
Such a raw beautiful coast.
AlfredWallace, 1724536491
[quote=Pop Down]11 boards AW !
Great , U must Quiver with excitement , deciding which Beast 2 ride .
I have always surfed Rounded Pins .
What's the benefits of a Round Tail ?
Round tails , do look nice !
Is a tail , that important , or just one small part , of a boards Feel ?
ALL the small parts , have 2 work together !
Probably helps 2 get aRound , am guessing :) .
Surfing and surfing equipment , it's Unreal ![/quote]
PopDown. Hi mate. How’s things trundling along for you in life ?
No surf here today, flat as a shit carters hat !!
Did I recall you mentioning your injured at present?
Boards, well they are an internal love affair with yourself. They’ve all got some kind of an emotional or physical attachment to them..
Each and every one of them has a memory or memories of a particular surf or time in life.
Where you bought them, who shaped them, was it a thoughtful or irrational purchase.
Where you surfed them, where you were geographically, home or away.
A complete memory bank of the kind of waves you caught , surfed successfully or unsuccessfully .
In my opinion, you can’t part with that kind of stuff, it’s part of you..
That’d be like having a dog and all of a sudden giving it up because you’re sick and tired of it, no, no ,no, life doesn’t work that way.
Alas, if you discover immediately that a board is not right, piss it off quickly otherwise it will wreck your physical and emotional side of surfing.
Us surfers, we are a weird mob, we are wired very differently than most, some may say, kind of fucked up, we operate in a sneaky, clandestine type manner, always looking for an opportunity to sneak or duck off for a wave, we are great liars, always manipulating time and reason to get to the surf. But hey, what a skill.
Surfing is an addiction, simply endorphin junkies.
But it’s fun. AW
Edit. Pops, round tails to rounded pin suit by body style and type of surfing, less drag around the tail end than other tail types, makes for nicer turns in my opinion, all individually specific as you’d know.
AlfredWallace, 1724537335
[quote=andy-mac][quote=southernraw][quote=AlfredWallace][quote=southernraw]Wow didn't know that fine detail AW. Thanks for the hot tip!!
Yeah it's a beautiful ocean and i'm lucky to live right near where it's at it's most terrifying extreme.
Love the stretch of coast where you are too. Some pretty epic energy along there.[/quote]
When I lived in Albany in 1984, I saw plenty of that energy, I was 19 years old, we’d arrive at some hidden spots and I’d almost shit my pants at the size and as you stated, energy.
I was a skinny kid getting hammered by massive surf, I survived and became all the better for it.
Some days around Denmark at some spots, I couldn’t get over how powerful the ocean would become, awe inspiring really.
With personal triumphs, fear abated gradually, but yeah fuck, some days I thought I’m going to drown, boards were crap then, too thick, too heavy, too short. AW[/quote]
Unreal AW. Great recollections and yep, this whole stretch of coast from Augusta to Esperance....and beyond is every bit of that.
And probably same as your coast, it's always waaaaaay bigger than it looks. How many times i've thought it's 3-4foot and you get down to the beach and it's 8foot plus! hahaha. Tail between legs stuff. But exhilarating.
Gotta have the right boards to make the most of this coast. Need alot of boards from big to small. My biggest dillema every morning is which 5 boards to put in the car for the day. Those 5 boards dictate the direction i go. They don't neccesarily have to be amazing boards. Just boards that match the conditions.
You've got a great way of seeing the world AW. Love it.
Thanks mate.[/quote]
West is definitely best gentlemen.
Such a raw beautiful coast.[/quote]
Andy-Mac. Hi fella.
How are you?
I concur wholeheartedly. Periodically I visit that Southern coastline in the West.
Apart from a few more houses these days, it’s still as raw as ever.
In fact, to me, it’s the most raw and natural (surf) coast I know anywhere on this great continent.
As Australians, we should never take for granted what we’ve got.
Must always fight to keep natural systems from being destroyed.
When it’s gone, it’s gone for good. AW
basesix, 1724538153
[quote=AlfredWallace]
I’ve 11 boards, purchased over several years, no opulence, just what’s required, can’t part with any of them, like you, I have no favourite, I just surf the board that suits the conditions, it could be a quad , thruster or a twin fin in all different lengths, but always rounded tails. [/quote]
sounds like you need to make it an even dozen, AW ; )
AlfredWallace, 1724538501
[quote=basesix][quote=AlfredWallace]
I’ve 11 boards, purchased over several years, no opulence, just what’s required, can’t part with any of them, like you, I have no favourite, I just surf the board that suits the conditions, it could be a quad , thruster or a twin fin in all different lengths, but always rounded tails. [/quote]
sounds like you need to make it an even dozen, AW ; )[/quote]
Basesix. Good morning mate.
How’s things ? Family well? .
Nice bit of weather today and the last few.
How’s the calcium carbonate coast looking at present?
Problem is if I get a twelfth board, someone will say I need a bakers dozen, then I’ll have two more boards than I really need.!!!
Keep well fella. Reading any good books lately, I’d be interested to hear ? AW
Pop Down, 1724539189
I loved your comments about boards and surfing , AW .
We surfers sure are different , as Surfing is a Unique experience .
Like a Dog or a Girl Friend / Ex wife , I don't put my Mal/ board , on the Roof Racks , either .
I feel better , having my board safe , beside me .
basesix, 1724539642
The kids are great thanks, @AW, my Mum, too,
calcium carbonate is already warm from sunday spring northerly.
much needed rain coming in about an hour, orchids and shrooms will love it!
you're right of course about your quiver, and fun to always be searching for the 12th,
rather than finding it. But when you DO, whip zoom, shit-eating grin, cue track!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq3awlDqAVo
Getting wet a lot lately, same as you, love hearing about your local line-ups.
All the best! (been reading classic fiction with my son, year 11 kinda stuff),
AlfredWallace, 1724540574
[quote=basesix]The kids are great thanks, @AW, my Mum, too,
calcium carbonate is already warm from sunday spring northerly.
much needed rain coming in about an hour, orchids and shrooms will love it!
you're right of course about your quiver, and fun to always be searching for the 12th,
rather than finding it. But when you DO, whip zoom, shit-eating grin, cue track!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq3awlDqAVo
Getting wet a lot lately, same as you, love hearing about your local line-ups.
All the best! (been reading classic fiction with my son, year 11 kinda stuff),[/quote]
Great to hear you’re all well, including ya mother, go her.
Love your upload of the Turtles, that’s a blast from the past.
I bet your son loves reading with you. Books can be the glue that brings families close together.
In the same way pianos and after dinner singing use to back in the day.
There were no hand held gadgets to swallow up learning and fun back then fortunately. AW
andy-mac, 1724541088
[quote=AlfredWallace][quote=basesix][quote=AlfredWallace]
I’ve 11 boards, purchased over several years, no opulence, just what’s required, can’t part with any of them, like you, I have no favourite, I just surf the board that suits the conditions, it could be a quad , thruster or a twin fin in all different lengths, but always rounded tails. [/quote]
sounds like you need to make it an even dozen, AW ; )[/quote]
Basesix. Good morning mate.
How’s things ? Family well? .
Nice bit of weather today and the last few.
How’s the calcium carbonate coast looking at present?
Problem is if I get a twelfth board, someone will say I need a bakers dozen, then I’ll have two more boards than I really need.!!!
Keep well fella. Reading any good books lately, I’d be interested to hear ? AW[/quote]
You can never have too many surfboards!!
Pop Down, 1724543020
I am wondering how AW stores his boards ?
Guessing arranged into Genus , Height , Weight and Colours , in a wonderful covered board , habitat .
Families singing , playing musical instruments and dancing together , a Generational Fun , activity !
Sound of Music or Partridge Family , Classical Stuff !
AlfredWallace, 1724544596
[quote=andy-mac][quote=AlfredWallace][quote=basesix][quote=AlfredWallace]
I’ve 11 boards, purchased over several years, no opulence, just what’s required, can’t part with any of them, like you, I have no favourite, I just surf the board that suits the conditions, it could be a quad , thruster or a twin fin in all different lengths, but always rounded tails. [/quote]
sounds like you need to make it an even dozen, AW ; )[/quote]
Basesix. Good morning mate.
How’s things ? Family well? .
Nice bit of weather today and the last few.
How’s the calcium carbonate coast looking at present?
Problem is if I get a twelfth board, someone will say I need a bakers dozen, then I’ll have two more boards than I really need.!!!
Keep well fella. Reading any good books lately, I’d be interested to hear ? AW[/quote]
You can never have too many surfboards!![/quote]
Andy-Mac. Oh mate, we are cut from the same cloth.
You’ve made my ears stand up and sing after hearing that.
Some people it’s cars, others, jewellery, sporting memorabilia , art, but surfboards are the BEST. AW
AlfredWallace, 1724544810
[quote=Pop Down]I am wondering how AW stores his boards ?
Guessing arranged into Genus , Height , Weight and Colours , in a wonderful covered board , habitat .
Families singing , playing musical instruments and dancing together , a Generational Fun , activity !
Sound of Music or Partridge Family , Classical Stuff ![/quote]
PopDown. Hi mate.
All in covers that’s for sure. All standing on their tails up against the wall in one of my sheds.
My ex once remarked that everything else in my life was disorderly but you’ve managed to present your boards immaculately, the end was nigh thereafter. Oh well, that’s life. Long time dead. AW
southernraw, 1724557540
[quote=Pop Down]I am wondering how AW stores his boards ?
Guessing arranged into Genus , Height , Weight and Colours , in a wonderful covered board , habitat .
Families singing , playing musical instruments and dancing together , a Generational Fun , activity !
Sound of Music or Partridge Family , Classical Stuff ![/quote]
haha very funny stuff @popdown. That gave me a good laugh.
blackers, 1724557796
Agree with the sentiment, you can never have too many boards. That said, I have been moving a few on recently, just not used (too small for old bones etc) with the hope a new home will provide the love needed. It's a slow cull, sell 3 buy 2 sorta process. Long time dead for sure.
basesix, 1724573306
[quote=AlfredWallace] Books can be the glue that brings families close together.
In the same way pianos and after dinner singing use to back in the day.
There were no hand held gadgets to swallow up learning and fun back then fortunately. AW[/quote]
yeh, @AW, how full on is the family piano concept? so many people out here in the country who are our age, remember family sing-alongs. But we've lost that piano-based thing from our culture. even singing together. reckon to be a true conservative, you should aim to conserve some of those deep-glue things that are difficult and require effort, rather than just a few ideals, opinions, and concepts. reading what my son is reading is awesome, lotsa forgotten, or new things, and a great motivator, I got slack over winter, just mags really.
basesix, 1724574213
^ shoulda read "for 'one' to be a true conservative, 'one' should aim to conserve'' - reckon it's clear we both have our own weird ideas in our heads, that probably align with no-one particularly, maybe some girl in tahiti... ah, well, next time around ; )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d6iRjYy7mI
AlfredWallace, 1724574671
[quote=basesix][quote=AlfredWallace] Books can be the glue that brings families close together.
In the same way pianos and after dinner singing use to back in the day.
There were no hand held gadgets to swallow up learning and fun back then fortunately. AW[/quote]
yeh, @AW, how full on is the family piano concept? so many people out here in the country who are our age, remember family sing-alongs. But we've lost that piano-based thing from our culture. even singing together. reckon to be a true conservative, you should aim to conserve some of those deep-glue things that are difficult and require effort, rather than just a few ideals, opinions, and concepts. reading what my son is reading is awesome, lotsa forgotten, or new things, and a great motivator, I got slack over winter, just mags really.[/quote]
Basesix. Yes, I agree, but at least your still reading.
I’ve just received this in the post from UWA in Perth.
A book by one of my life heroes, the great polymath, Prof. George Seddon.
He’d have been an amazing Prime Minister. AW
AlfredWallace, 1724574855
[quote=basesix]^ shoulda read "for 'one' to be a true conservative, 'one' should aim to conserve'' - reckon it's clear we both have our own weird ideas in our heads, that probably align with no-one particularly, maybe some girl in tahiti... ah, well, next time around ; )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d6iRjYy7mI[/quote]
Basesix. Your mind/brain can be your friend or foe.
