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Shatner'sBassoon started the topic in Friday, 6 Nov 2015 at 7:48pm

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talkingturkey Friday, 21 Oct 2016 at 12:05pm

Gold, Stunts, gold!

As an aside, GW Bush was once asked what his favourite book was when he was growing up and he plumped for The Very Hungry Caterpillar. Trouble was, it wasn't published until 1969 - the year after he graduated from Yale.

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talkingturkey Friday, 21 Oct 2016 at 12:17pm

Doggo, you forgot the other example I mentioned from 2007. That was from the Telegraph!

The thing is, perhaps I'm a bit confused here, I can't work it out, is Rupert against the whole gun thing or is he for it? Then, now, whenever.

I guess the LNP are having the same confusing moment themselves RIGHT NOW?

Pigs or terrorists?

The shit-show continues...

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talkingturkey Friday, 21 Oct 2016 at 5:54pm

Before I retire for cocktail hour, here's the transcript of a speech given in parliament yesterday that wasn't deemed at all newsworthy by the corporate media. You'll love it Doggo...or not.

"Some days are more interesting than others in this place, but it is going to take a most interesting day to top the last hour and a half. We all heard it: that thudding noise as Malcolm Turnbull threw Tony Abbott under the bus. The current Liberal Prime Minister, defending the Ministers for Justice and Immigration in answering the question "Was he satisfied about whose version was correct?" said, "I am satisfied in my Ministers for Immigration and Justice."

And then, as Question Time finished and we were still gasping at the current Prime Minister throwing the previous Prime Minister under the bus, the previous Prime Minister stood up and threw his current boss under the bus. All bets are off over there in this government! When we drafted this MPI saying that the Government are not united, I never thought that they would be the first speakers in the MPI!

This Prime Minister promised stable government, but you could tell he just could not wait to rip Tony Abbott a new one. Stable government is a second-order issue ...

The SPEAKER: The Leader of the Opposition will resume his seat. I am not going to keep endlessly making the point that members need to refer to other members by their correct titles. It applies to every member in this House, including the Leader of the Opposition, whom I suspect I have reminded more than most.

Mr SHORTEN: Thank you, Mr Speaker. This Liberal civil war is so confusing and distracting, isn't it?

This was going to be the week. This was to be the Prime Minister's moment in the sun. You can just picture him on Sunday, all those long, 96 hours ago. He was back in the Lodge, luggage in the luggage lift, out there checking the letterbox to see if there was a postcard from Wyatt Roy. 'Wish you were here.' 'No, you don't!'

Then we had the artful Arthur, Senator Sinodinos, popping his head around: "Great news from the front, sire! We've had a win in the ACT." "Really?" He heads out of the luggage lift. "What is the news? Did we win?" the Prime Minister says. "Oh, no, no, no. It's much better than that! There's going to be some new trams to take selfies on!"

Then, of course, there is the friendly lunch with the focus group. What is on the menu? I would like to tell you but we found out in Estimates this week that the Prime Minister's meals are classified. Who would have thought it was truffles with a sauce of national security?

Anyway, he is laying out the orange tie, ready for the renaissance week; the marquee week. A Government that was going to finally put to rest its reputation for dithering, disunity and dysfunction. He was the real Prime Minister — no more weakness, no more indecision. It was a new dawn, the third coming of Malcolm. But four days later, where are we back to?

The SPEAKER: The Leader of the Opposition!

Mr SHORTEN: There is a split in the Coalition, an insurgent member for Warringah. And what was that unfamiliar noise we heard of drumming on the backbench?

Opposition members: They're alive!

Mr SHORTEN: They're alive! They really do exist! Some might say I am being too hard on this government, but —

Opposition members: No!

Mr SHORTEN: True! But making history in a few days is not as easy as it looks. This is the first government since Menzies to lose a majority in the House, the first government to ever vote against itself — and then call upon itself to explain its failings. And then we got an insight. Those opposite agreed to call upon their failings and explain themselves, and now I realise what it meant: that is what it feels like to be in a Liberal caucus meeting every Tuesday.

Of course, then they gagged their own double dissolution triggers — as you do. It was the master stroke and they did not want the chamber to consider it. And after the longest election called in 50 years, we have been given the shortest time in Parliament to deal with the most important issue in the nation — according to the Government.

But the good news is, I can report to the people of Australia, that the Liberal Party have not lost their sense of humour. They got the member for Fadden to ask a question about the rule of law!

Then, of course, they got so bad at communicating their message that yesterday they got the Minister for Trade up. He was talking in morse code — "R2-D2 Ciobo" kept beeping away at the box. But when there is this chaos, who do they call?

[Ms Henderson interjecting]

Mr SHORTEN: They do not call you, Corangamite.

The SPEAKER: Order! The Leader of the Opposition will refer to members by their correct titles.

Mr SHORTEN: Okay: "current member for Corangamite, temporarily". It is only natural. When there is a problem, who do they call for? They call for the Leader of the House, or, as he prefers to be known, "the equally senior co-convener of Defence" — so long as the Minister for Defence is not in the room and can hear him. Of course, when the parliament is falling apart, they come up with a fix! Is their fix in parliament something as simple as saying, "Yeah, you've got be here until the end of parliament"? No. Is it something as easy as saying, "Check what you are voting on before you vote"? Instead, it is, "Innovative, agile electronic voting."

Electronic voting, that is going to fix it all! I can just see how electronic voting will go with this mob: the Minister for Revenue and Financial Services, gearing up to condemn herself. You can hear Siri saying, "Don't do that!" Remember when the member for Wentworth invented the Internet, there was a little paperclip they had in Microsoft Word! You can just see it saying, "It looks like you are trying to be a minister. Do you need help?"

Then there is the other place, where there is Estimates. I want to give a shout out to Senator Penny Wong. I do not know how she does it. A five-hour conversation with the Attorney-General and the congeniality twins, Senator O'Sullivan and Senator Macdonald! Two men ready for the dawn of the 20th century!

Of course, satin George always brings us in with the news. In the final hours before caretaker kicked in, Senator Brandis made 37 appointments to the AAT. Those are jobs that pay a salary of up to $370,000. Let me save you doing the maths: $13.7 million, almost seven times what the Prime Minister donated to his own survival. No positions were advised, no department advice was provided and no-one has checked for the conflicts of interest. Although the good news is: we do not know if they are qualified, we do not know if they are comprised and we do not know if they have got the job on merit, but they may well be up to being attorney-general in this Government!

Unfortunately, we see that under this Government – whilst they are good at job-creating for their own donors and supporters – too many Australians, as we have learnt today, are missing out. We have seen that tens of thousands of full-time jobs are going in this country. The only thing Australians have got consoled themselves with is this mob opposite us. This week, the Government did cross a serious line by talking about tampering with a 20-year bipartisan commitment to a safer Australia, dishonouring the legacy of John Howard and disregarding the warnings we tragically see from the United States so frequently. Do they really think that their anti-union, anti-worker, anti-fairness agenda is worth more than changing the rules around lever-action weapons on the streets? They are not fit to be the government.

Then they get caught in that farrago of lies. Clearly, the former Prime Minister has educated us today and, whilst he was having a go at the Opposition, we know his real target was the Prime Minister. He said there were no deals done, yet what we see clearly is the Minister for Justice and the Minister for Immigration and Border Protection, in written correspondence, offering Senator Leyonhjelm – in return for their vote on other matters – changes to the rules around these lever-action shotguns. When the Prime Minister has a choice between —

[Mr Keenan interjecting.]

Mr SHORTEN: I think you have said enough for today, Minister for Justice! You saw the Prime Minister: he had a choice to backup the member for Warringah, but the member for Wentworth is so consumed by his dislike and his disregard for the member for Warringah that he is happy to buttress these incompetents in their current jobs when they have been caught out dealing votes for guns. Australians do not want this horsetrading; they do not want this horsetrading on things as fundamental as their gun laws.

Can we find out from the Government what they actually think about the gun laws and where they should be? Any number of times this week we have invited our Prime Minister to inform us and to tell us what he is doing in conjunction with the Australian Federal Police advice. These are the questions which those opposite must answer.

But the real lesson we have learnt this week is that this Government and this Prime Minister are so weak, so pathetic, and so desperate that any group of bullies can tweak the Prime Minister's tail and any group insurgents can stand him up. The one thing we have learnt about the member for Wentworth in just over a year of his stewardship of this nation is that he will sell out his principles, he will sell out his previous positions and he will do anything to keep his job.

Tragically, this nation may well have another two years of this weak leadership. But we promise the people of Australia that we will call out the weakness, the lack of conscience and the mercenary nature of doing deals, votes for guns and the like. We will never stop standing up to a weak, rotten government."

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Sheepdog Friday, 21 Oct 2016 at 7:35pm

I'll sit down with a box of benzos and read that a bit later Turk.

In the meantime , perhaps tabloids arent the go for stats on pigs yeah? Rupert? Telegraph? You used to be about the rockn roll maaaan....

"Today, it is estimated that Australia has up to 24 million feral pigs. They are among Queensland’s most widespread and damaging pest animals. Feral pigs spread weeds, degrade soil and water, prey on native species, damage crops and livestock, and carry diseases.

You can support a national feral pig mapping project by reporting feral pig populations.

Feral pig is a restricted invasive animal under the Biosecurity Act 2014."

http://www.pestsmart.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PSFS_feralpig.pdf

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Blowin Friday, 21 Oct 2016 at 7:46pm

Invasive pest from Queensland spreading to other parts of the country ?

Pretty sure there is a joke in there somewhere.

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talkingturkey Friday, 21 Oct 2016 at 7:52pm

Hah, probably a couple.

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talkingturkey Friday, 21 Oct 2016 at 7:57pm

"The feral pig is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, feral pig is not the preferred nomenclature. Wild swine, please."

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theween Saturday, 22 Oct 2016 at 8:58am

Talking of pests, maybe take-out a few turkeys while they're at it.

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talkingturkey Saturday, 22 Oct 2016 at 10:59am

"Looks like we got us a sow here, instead of a boar.
What's the matter, boy? I bet you can squeal. I bet you can squeal like a pig. Let's squeal. Squeal now. Squeal."

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!

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Sheepdog Saturday, 22 Oct 2016 at 6:18pm

Turkmanistan writes, "Before I retire for cocktail hour, here's the transcript of a speech given in parliament yesterday that wasn't deemed at all newsworthy by the corporate media. You'll love it Doggo...or not."

Yeah wasn't a bad read, turkman.... But it's todays fish and chips wrappers.... I love the smell of ink on my chips in the morning... The big news today is "Abbott tries to bring democracy to the NSW libs".... And loses...... Loses, again..... To Turnbull and the moderates......
Tony Rudd? Kevin Abbott? Gillard would be laughing into her 2012 Chateau Conservating Upringing "anti gay marriage" special release.

Blowback writes "Invasive pest from Queensland spreading to other parts of the country ?"
"Ta tish" lol ............ Shame they were originally introduced and spread from NSW, but we wont let facts gets in the way of a good joke.... Never used facts before so I dont expect him to start now.

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sypkan Tuesday, 25 Oct 2016 at 5:20pm

Here's a good article describing why left/right means little anymore, and bow we ended up with the two worst presidential candidates in history.

Whatever side of politics someone is from, $139 000 000 over a ten year period just for speeches is so wrong. The kind of decadent wrongness one might accept and overlook when it comes from the right side of politics, but the left?... there's some serious conflict of interest going on there whichever side is indulging

“If we don’t get this right, what we’re seeing with Trump now will just be the beginning."

Sorry Hilary, I think you've already got it wrong, so so wrong! This really is just the beginning

http:
//www.newyorker.
com/magazine/2016/10/31/hillary-clinton-and-the-populist-

And trying to control the narrative is just a little passé. You might have got away with it this election, but that time is well and truly up....

Iceland the one country that did jail it's bankers. actually dealt with the problems of the gfc,
(and is one of few places seeing economic improvement since, coincidence?), didn't accept the Panama papers as some proof of inevitability. One would think they'd be on the political road to business as usual, but no way! Not Iceland, looks like they might just possibly elect 'the pirate party'

Good luck trying to keep those guys quiet Hilary

Gee I love Iceland, way more to offer than just bjork

https
://www.washingtonpost
.com/world/europe/iceland-a-land-of-vikings-braces-for-a-pirate-party-takeover/2016/10/23/f1bfe992-9540-11e6-9cae-2a3574e296a6_story.html

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sypkan Tuesday, 25 Oct 2016 at 5:16pm

Praise the gods for Bernie!

He's not going to let Hilary off lightly, holding her to account for his begrudging support. Already questioning her Wall St. picks before they're even appointed, he's going to be all over her.

looks like this presidency thing is really going to be a poison chalice for Hilary. Bernie attacking from within, the republicans doing what they do, trump attacking from his new TV channel, anonymous, WikiLeaks, the pirates of Iceland. There's going to be so many people undermining her from all sides her presidency will be a disaster. I doubt this 'first woman president' momentous occasion thingy will be the celebration of feminism some are hoping for

Or she'll come in and stop all that nasty man-ness like we've been promised. No more war, corruption, inequality....

not bloody likely, but maybe

https
://www.washingtonpost.com
/politics/sanders-is-prepared-to-be-a-liberal-thorn-in-clintons-side/2016/10/24/aaf6dd88-97eb-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html#comments

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tonybarber Wednesday, 26 Oct 2016 at 3:59pm

Unless Hillary gets impeached, the points above are irrelevant. It will now depend on the senate to see if she can actually do what she wants to do.

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sypkan Thursday, 27 Oct 2016 at 10:33am

You're probably right tonybarber, but gee it's going to be a pleasure to watch

Actually after watching Q and A this week I've gone back to thinking trump could actually win this thing.

It was most interesting watching the Australians on the panel talk about a trump presidency as though it was inconceivable, both morally and practically . Then there was the American journalist, Christine Dolan, talking as though it may well be the best thing that could possibly happen, and she's a woman!!. Australians clearly don't understand the anger and corruption that has been unearthed recently in the US. This anger is amplified by a failed expansionary foreign policy. her story about the Arab spring being presented as an organic endemic Facebook revolution was particularly telling. The truth, as told by Hilary in her own book, was about a concerted Facebook 'education' campaign by the U S government to destabilise the leaders in the region... and Hilary is bragging about it, much like her killing of Gaddafi,

She is a 'nasty woman'

Crooked Hilary wasn't an exaggeration

Also, the FBI are not happy with her at all, Colin Powell says everything she touches turns to shit, and sanders says her judgement is woeful, and apparently trump is the liar light on facts....

Presenting of facts seems way short on both sides to me

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s4537373.htm

It's a little late but the press are finally realising Hilary is the dangerous one

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-26/the-election-of-hillary-clinton-pr...

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Sheepdog Sunday, 30 Oct 2016 at 7:20pm

Scum of the earth.... The most crook sell out bunch of carpet baggers that have ever had control of Australia....

"Two years after clinching a historic free trade deal with Beijing, former trade minister Andrew Robb has become a "high-level economic consultant" with the Chinese company that now operates Darwin Port.

Andrew Robb appointed to role by chairman Ye Cheng two months ago
Landbridge Group was awarded 99-year lease over Port of Darwin last year
Turnbull Government declines to say when it became aware of appointment
A Landbridge Group company statement obtained by the ABC said Mr Robb was appointed to the role by chairman Ye Cheng at an "auspicious" ceremony two months ago.

The Landbridge Group was awarded a 99-year lease over the Port of Darwin last year in a $506 million deal with the Northern Territory Government that sparked concerns at the highest levels of the Australian Defence Force."

Check the ABC scoop for more details.....

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Blowin Sunday, 30 Oct 2016 at 8:55pm

Well noted Sheepy.

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Sheepdog Monday, 31 Oct 2016 at 7:23pm

I really didn't think our country could descend further into the cesspit...... But I was wrong.... Certainly not the first time

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/criminals-and-j...

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discostu Monday, 31 Oct 2016 at 7:34pm

You aint real smart are you Sheepshit.

This country currently has a gross immigration rate of 394000 people.

This immigration is used to produce BS statistics that the goons fall for - namely increased GDP.

Australia produces less secondary and tertiary goods than ever before. So, there is no productivity gain. The GDP stat merely picks up purchases of goods and services. If you increase the number of people in the country, guess what you get? Well duh.

The US and the UK and a large part of Europe are now "cesspits" as you put it. No connection with the culture that made the countries nor with what made them great.

Fortunately,I travel between Japan and Oz all year. Japan has its own culture and the people are united. What idiot would fight for this country now being filled full of rubbish from the 3rd world?

Cesspit? Its already in the capital cities and eventually will make its way to you.

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talkingturkey Monday, 31 Oct 2016 at 11:13pm

Stuey, maaate, get off the 'blow', man. You're ranting worse than Alex Jones on meth. Tap into the zen...again...tomodachi. Or shelve a disco-biscuit or something, ya old 'surferfuk' you.

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 1 Nov 2016 at 12:11am

There's 2 type of idiots in this world, stu... And you're both of them...
To compare an immigrant based country like Australia to Japan borders on pathetic...... But whilst you went there, here's a link on the massive suicide rate in japan;

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-33362387

Yep...... They sure do stick together over there, Or should I say "hang" out together......

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Blowin Tuesday, 1 Nov 2016 at 6:51pm

You're going to have to do a lot better than that tripe if you're going to beat Discostu, Sheepy.

Why not compare Australia and Japan ?

Australia's immigration history has been voluntary not essential.

Especially in the years that count - circa 2002 till the present outrageous inundation.

I thought you were well versed in the propoganda regime endorsed by the current political class.....yet you're still swallowing the populate or perish / aging demographic / essential economic growth proponent line.

Time to wake up mate.

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talkingturkey Tuesday, 1 Nov 2016 at 7:24pm

"You're going to have to do a lot better than that tripe if you're going to beat Discostu."

Haha. Why? Disco-duck is a venting troll...no more, no less. Too much shelving, too much frustrated dirty water to unleash.

And a fan of William Idol!

Too much "dancing with myself" for little Stuey. Poor bugger.

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Blowin Tuesday, 1 Nov 2016 at 7:37pm

Sorry Turkey, your obtuse pop cultural references don't cut it against the blunt objectivism of Discostu.

You can rally your pained opinions with all the smugness of the Self righteous if it makes you feel so invigorated , but to be honest , and I'm not on any one's side , you'll have to up the ante from YouTube video hits and transcripts of minor cult favourites to irrefutable facts if you're to remain a contender in any future dispute.

Best of luck !

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talkingturkey Tuesday, 1 Nov 2016 at 7:58pm

"Push me, shove you"

"Oh yeah, says Stu?"

Or you?

Maaaaate, you wanna be a contender....whatever that means...post a link! A photo! A Youtube clip! Any fucken thing! Subject, whatever. The task itself is the thing.

Hmmmm, Stuey seems challenged in that department as well.

Have a go, ya mugs!

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Blowin Tuesday, 1 Nov 2016 at 8:27pm

Another pop cultural reference.

Nice one though.

Candollini wants his hand back.

And his greasy entitlement due to being part of the smug majority.

You could do worse than borrow a bit of the Discostu directness to get your point across. Half the time I'm not sure what your point is to be honest. And comprehension doesn't rate amongst my litany of failures, for better or worse.

Maybe you are Uplift.

And that's not a compliment.

But you can be certain , I'm not Discostu. But I'm rapidly becoming a fan .

If not for his point of view , then definitely for his excoriation of his vapid opposition.

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discostu Tuesday, 1 Nov 2016 at 8:41pm

Gobbler!

I love a challenge from those who are IQ challenged.

Number of suicides in Australia 2687 ( ABS ) per year. Aust pop Approx 24,000,000. Percentage= .01%

Number of suicides in Japan 22,000 ( pick a website ) pop Approx 124,000,000. Percentage = .017%

Frighteningly different huh?

And for your next trick? Don't tell me............ your shoe size is a bigger number than your IQ!

Now as to saying that Australia is an "immigrant based country", well I don't fight over made up nonsense terminology. Hillary uses a similar argument. It aint working for her, and it aint working for you.

By the way, how is that weightloss going Gobbler? I can see you have thinned out what little there was between your ears! tehehehehehhehe

You know you have to stop dancing by yourself and try to be a lover. Must be hot in the city huh.

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blindboy Tuesday, 1 Nov 2016 at 9:46pm

Discosux. Always did. Always will. But shit doesn't he look good! The unbuttoned shirt, the hairy chest, (shaves the shoulders though), the coke spoon on the chain, the carefully trimmed mo, bum tight flares, can dance like a mother and never move his feet. Saturday night fever every night with stu! Your place or mine lover boy?

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talkingturkey Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 12:55pm

Cundalini. FFS. Disco-blow. Dodgy suicide stats? Huh? Doggo stuff? He might give a duck.

Weird but uncanny. The film Idiocracy was on free-to -air when I got home from blowing my winnings at the pub. Scary. S'posed to be 500 years in the future?!

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talkingturkey Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 1:14am

Bob Day. Ex Liberal. Total friggin' kunt. Get on board, hey? Says who EVER?

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discostu Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 7:26am

Had trouble sleeping last night did ya gobbler?

Sheesh given you have set the standard using Bob Day as your example, what would you conclude about a union representative that ripped off all the workers he represented, supported a guy who used union member's money for prostitutes - even had a little cry while lying in parliament, got one of his staff preggers while his own new missus was up the duff, had a rape allegation disappear, has allowed the destruction of member funds in another union, and has sought to fill the supposedly best country in the world with 3rd rubbish?

He'd be oroit then eh? hehehhehehehe

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talkingturkey Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 12:51pm

E.S.T, hey? Bring back daylight saving.

Speaking of 'standards' & 'day' (Boom! Segue it!), poor old Bobby Day is only today's 'standard-bearer'. Wait a few hours, someone else will step up to the plate. I'm betting Brandis will get another run.

And if you wanna union-bash, get on-board Kathy Jackson. Better odds.

As for the other stuff? Rape? Staff pregnancy? Destruction of funds? Is this what you mean by filling the supposedly best country in the world with 'third rubbish'? Yours?

Stuey, can you post links for any of this? Name names! Especially the sources. Have a go! You international jet-setter you. Post something!!

"White lines...blow away..."

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Sheepdog Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 5:00pm

Just checked disco biscuits figures..... And just as I thought, anyone who cant simply provide a link to back up their stats is full of shit...
Why lie, Stu? Whats the point?
Why be a liar?

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Sheepdog Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 5:07pm

"You're going to have to do a lot better than that tripe if you're going to beat Discostu, Sheepy.

Why not compare Australia and Japan ?"

Go for it..... Start with their economy, shall we? Recession.... Deflation...
Fire away.....

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talkingturkey Wednesday, 2 Nov 2016 at 6:20pm

Watch out, he's got figures!

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Sheepdog Thursday, 3 Nov 2016 at 12:49pm

Sypo writes "the game is must choose one sheepdog!!"

I dont like your game :p

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talkingturkey Thursday, 3 Nov 2016 at 1:15pm

Ha ha! Bingo!

And what did I mention above about Georgie boy?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/a-brandis-stack?utm_term=.rq70XBB...

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talkingturkey Thursday, 3 Nov 2016 at 1:16pm

And I can post links again!! Huzzah!

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Sheepdog Thursday, 3 Nov 2016 at 8:45pm

Turkman writes "And I can post links again!! Huzzah!"

Yeah it's been real hit and miss with posting stuff. I even have to submit a verification code just to post a comment with no link ffs

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talkingturkey Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 11:38am

With some of the stuff that's been flying about lately on these threads - the tone, even the spirit, of it as well as the subject matter...and the mention of Milo - I had a look at this:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/breitbart-news-drudge-alt-right-koch-...

Echoes in Australia - the echo chamber! - are there for all to see (that want to see)

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discostu Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 11:41am

to see what gobbler? that the nigh is end for left wing socialist nonsense? You only had to see hanson's vote to know that. what is the bollocks with regard tone, and spirit? You just need to have people conform and be another parrot like you huh?

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Sheepdog Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 12:08pm

Disco biscuit writes "You only had to see hanson's vote to know that."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/senate/

4.3%.......... 4.3%...........4.3%............. There. I said it 3 times...... And Hanson hasn't appeared in my office...... I could say it 4 times..... It'd still be less than 1/2 of the greens vote....
There's no point having a logical debate with Stu..... You can only debate logical people....
It's like arguing with a nutcase in a padded cell - entertaining at first, but a feeling of pity soon follows.

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talkingturkey Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 12:34pm

"Believing without facts is just ideology." - Disco Stu

Your petard, comrade. How's it working for ya (whatever your ideology is)?

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Blowin Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 12:48pm

Sheepy - "Hanson hasn't appeared in my office.

Sheepy's stapler problem at Sheepy's office : https://m.

He's just worried about company property.

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talkingturkey Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 1:56pm

HANSON IS...REVOLUTION! TRUMP IS...REVOLUTION!

Milo overdose.

Funny clip, Blowie. Being a fan of the show, where'd you think Gareth's vote would go in the UK, US, here?

'Je suis Gareth', maaaate?

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Blowin Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 2:01pm

He'd be a LNP man all the way.

PS - What the fuck is milo ?

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talkingturkey Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 2:59pm

Google 'milo' & 'alt-right' & strap yourself in!

I reckon Gareth has Farage, Trump & Pauline all over him.

As for Brent?

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David H Koch Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 3:42pm

Milo overload, milo overload.....ahhhh the alt right are coming to smash us Marxists. Blab blab blab, sound like hillaries speech on the alt right, aren't they led by Putin? Or is it Pepe? No, no must be milo...milo overload, strap yaselves in , a gay guy who's homophobic.
You're a relic tt, trying to get your head around something beyond your grasp. It's a generational thing, let it go. Just remember the good old days of communism coz there's no defending the degenerate left politic of today.

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talkingturkey Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 3:55pm

I posted this previously. It's perhaps TL:DR for the young 'uns.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/breitbart-news-drudge-alt-right-koch-...

"In an internecine feud as large as the Republican Party’s total structural collapse, many obscure constituencies and militant sects can rise to prominence without any one of them holding significant political power.

The hopeless and disparate heterogeneity of these groups made “the alt-right” their popular descriptor. It echoes, precisely and intentionally, the catchall use of “alternative” in the 1990s music industry: empty suits who collectively could not be bothered to differentiate (say) hardcore punk from industrial, jangle pop from shoegaze, antifolk from noise rock, and countless other niche genres from the countless other niche genres out of which hit singles were then emerging.

But still: broad statistical generalizations about the alt-right can be made, thanks to research conducted by the Washington Post, with tools developed by Indiana University’s Network Science Institute. Using the school’s Observatory on Social Media, the Post studied the exploding use of #AltRightMeans in the days surrounding Hillary Clinton’s first public criticism of the group this August.

Their research discovered that the most influential Twitter users during this campaign were four fully grown men — not the boy kings of 4chan that the alt-right is so often imagined to be — Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich), a California attorney, men’s rights activist, and opportunistic Gamergate defender; Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet), an editor at Alex Jones’s Infowars; the self-described “Islam and terrorism expert” Jared Wyand (@JaredWyand); and a random guy from California (@magnifier661).

But, perhaps most significantly, the data-mining and consumer-profiling firm Demographics Pro determined, from this same data set, that the vast majority of #AltRightMeans tweets originated from accounts held by “married white men between forty and sixty years old.” In other words, late-phase Baby Boomers and first-wave Gen X-ers, disgruntled “anti-PC” dudes from the same demographic as Andrew Breitbart: men who very much remember the dream of the nineties."

Kids don't know shit?!

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talkingturkey Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 4:13pm

"Point being: a conservatism not grounded in either the free-market absolutism of libertarianism or the stodgy moral posturing of evangelicalism has little ideological space left for mooring. Ultimately, Andrew Breitbart’s dimwit Gen-X Archie Bunker-ism was destined to slide either into a begrudging liberal populism or the alt-right’s full-tilt Kulturkampf.

This, in part, explains why the alt-right has been predominantly a meme-based Internet phenomena, strongly associated with Pepe the Frog, the ironic use of McDonald’s Moon Man, and one caustically offensive Adult Swim show. It explains why Richard Spencer worked so hard to produce an alt-right logo that resembles Pitchfork Media’s old Altered Zones project. And it perhaps explains why many in the alt-right goon squad sport David Lynch haircuts and wear their chill Vaporwave musical tastes on their sleeve (where the swastika ought to be). They see forwarding their policy goals and the “blunt instrument” of the Trump campaign as secondary to their battle for cultural relevance."

Oi, leave David Lynch outta this!

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Blowin Monday, 7 Nov 2016 at 4:14pm

Gareth is LNP all the way.

When you realise that the 1 percent of society who account for 60 percent of the wealth - or whatever that statistic is - don't possess the voting power to get the LNP into power then you've got to look around at who is responsible.

The answer is every one with a mortgage that was worried about interest rates upsetting their little property tycoon dream. That includes every low level corporate lick spittle and post - bogan tradie that fancies themselves a mover and a shaker cause they've got a property portfolio .

Even if that property portfolio consists of a 1987 built ,two bedroom unit in Sutherland with a mortgage of 80 percent of the purchase price.

LNP voters don't want to rock the boat.

Gareth is an LNP voter.